Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Condemnation for the mere condition of a lack of conviction is petty and childish.



I don’t believe you can make a biblical case for your statement.

I think you’ve not got the right idea…..trying to keep it real simple…you have a relationship with your Creator or you don’t.

If you don’t want a relationship with God, tragic, but that is your choice …..No relationship with God before your death…no relationship after your death. No relationship with the Creator for “eternity.”




It's basic morality. We as human beings can see that condemning someone to death or torment on the basis of lack of conviction as excessive and morally and ethically unsound. We don't kill people over what they don't believe. Do we show a greater tolerance toward those of other beliefs or lack of conviction than God? Are we more reasonable than God?



So, you simply regurgitate your previous thesis …. Ok…why do you ….apparently…. believe that “we don’t kill people over what they don’t believe? Look around… what do you see in the world? I suspect you are blinded. Surely you are that unaware….. well, maybe you are….

Further, why do you believe that ….apparently….that Jesus….would condemn someone for a “lack of conviction?” I don’t see anything in the Bible that says that people are condemned for having a “lack of conviction.” You are just making this stuff up.

Btw…. When you stand before your Creator, you will have “no excuse.”

Like I said….

If one does not want a relationship with his Creator, that is tragic.

No relationship with God…before your death….. then no relationship with God after your death….. and no relationship for “eternity.”





I'm not regurgitating anything. Making the accusation is your means of defense.

You really do know that killing someone over their lack of conviction is an intolerant, immoral act. The act of an intolerant despot, a dictator.

I wouldnt do it. Would you?



Like I said…. You regurgitate and again avoid the real issue……so, I will ask it again …. Your implication is ….apparently….that God kills “someone over their lack of conviction.” This is just pure heresy….. and you don’t even see that.

So, what’s your answer? A cogent response or just more mind vomit?


And once again I point out that your accusation of 'regurgitation' is your means of defense.

Lack of conviction means not having faith in Jesus. And what is the penalty of not having faith in Jesus or believing in the reality of the bible god?

Is the atheist forgiven and granted salvation?

You understand that atheists are justified by absence of evidence, and if evidence for the existence of a God or gods comes to light, they would be convinced.

What then? Not to late for salvation once presented with the reality of God?


Well, where to start? First, a lack of conviction does not equate to not having faith in Jesus. A lack of conviction is simply not being of acceptance of the truth about something. Where is the problem if one is not “convicted” of the truth about Jesus? The man “chooses” to reject the truth…he does not accept Jesus. The man rejects the truth. We see this all the time, not only in religion but also in our culture. The man prefers prideful, sweet sounding lies to the reality of truth.

You are also wrong about atheists being justified by absence of evidence. This is simply wishful thinking and a childish hope for a “Get out of jail free card.” Won’t work…..Totally wrong. Men choose which way they go and they choose what to believe. God does the calling…. God presents Himself. The man has no excuse. The man can willfully reject the Son and willfully reject the gift of salvation. Judas knew exactly who Jesus was and yet never accepted the Savior. Yes, he “regretted” but he did not repent and seek the gift. There are many examples in the Bible of those who knew who God was and yet rejected Him.

It is interesting that you state that an an atheist is “justified by absence of evidence.” This is simply your own personal opinion and with this statement you also presume to know how God will judge.

Also, I don’t believe for a moment that you don’t believe in “God.” You are just in rebellion of God…. The One who loves you. This may change for you, I hope it does.

Like I said…. Reject God and have no relationship with Him before death and there will be no relationship with Him after death…. No relationship for “eternity.”

Last edited by TF49; 09/27/21.

The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”