Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Dukester
So, why would you guys buy a Howa vs a Weatherby Vanguard? Of the few I have seen, the Vanguard seemed to be the better rifle, even though the actions are by Howa. Better fit, finish, stock, etc.


I’ve never seen any difference in the metal. The stocks aren’t my cup of tea on either one. I’d bet a nickel the newer Howa carbon fiber stocks and when they used Banser were light years ahead of anything Wby put on their Vanguards. Just what I see from my grid square.


I agree about the metal, as it's pretty much the same. I think the Hogue Howa stocks are too heavy and chunky, and the LOP is too long for my liking, especially when wearing a lot of clothes. I've put Vanguard stocks on Howa rifles, and it was at best, only a slight improvement. IMO the Alpine with the Banser stock was Howas best offering. The carbon fiber stocks should be a huge leap forward.

As far as the Mini Action goes, it needs to be offered with bottom metal and a trimmer, lighter weight stock.