Originally Posted by Swamplord
Originally Posted by antlers
Did Jesus Himself make it crystal clear in His New Covenant that His followers are to love other’s as He has loved His followers…? Did He make it crystal clear in His New Covenant that *the* defining characteristic of His followers is that they love other’s as He has loved them…? Was this a command from Jesus Himself, or was it just a suggestion…?

Does cherry-picking a verse about a specific “abomination” from an old covenant (the Law of Moses) that is no longer in effect…and hasn’t been in effect for 2000 years, and that never ever applied to anyone other than the ancient Israelites to begin with…square up with Jesus’ New Covenant command above…?

If someone is prejudiced or bigoted or hates someone else for whatever reason...homosexuals in this instance…that's their business. Especially when they're honest enough to admit that that's what it is. At least they're honest about it. Others choose to weaponize cherry-picked old covenant Bible verses to justify their prejudice and bigotry and hatred of certain others...homosexuals in this instance…hidin' behind the shield of Christianity and doin' the exact opposite of what Jesus Himself did and taught.

Apostle John said that those who profess to be walking in the light…while hating others…are still in darkness themselves. Was Apostle John wrong about that…?

Nothing more pathetic & disgusting than a homosexual trying to twist & shred the bible in some psychotic attempt to sway opinion in IT's favor ....

Do you really think you are the first to attempt that ?

Swampy,

I've had many religious debates with Antlers. Although our beliefs are different, you attack on him is totally unjustified. He's an honest debater, and there's nothing in his quoted post inconsistent with what he's said in the past. I have no good reason to think these are not his honest beliefs, and his position on The New Covenant and Grace are held by a good many Christian here on The Fire.

You attack on his is way off base.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell