Originally Posted by DBT
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.

Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.

That is a very important point. And when you take a cohort like, say, people under about 70 who don't suffer certain comorbidities, the risk for them of death or serious illness from Covid was established very early on to be vanishingly small. That being the case, the absolute risk reduction for them from mRNA injections was, even when it was believed that they were effective, even smaller. At the same time, the evidence was there from Pfizer's earliest trials, if anyone had cared to look, that the risk inherent to injection was non-zero. Indeed in Pfizer's initial testing more died in the test arm (those injected) than in the control arm.

Since then the evidence is that efficacy was never as high as what was promised, and indeed wanes fast, even to negative against infection. Read the NSW data on hospitalisation and deaths and you'll see the unvaccinated are underrepresented, taking into account the percentage of the population in that category. At the same time evidence has been mounting for many months of the risks, including damage to the heart, and to women's reproductive systems. Ask yourself why we are seeing the dramatic increases in excess mortality figures and significantly decreased live births around the world.