I think an awful lot of the .270's popularity had to do with JOC and a zippy 130gr loading.

But to say that just because a similar cartridge existed previously, the .280 was doomed to failure is placing too much weight on the logic of buyers and timelessness of a cartridge.

A round has to be in the right place at the right time to succeed. It has to make a splash when the puddle is deep, so to speak. Yeah, there are a bunch of 6.5mm rounds out there. But I wouldn't say he Creedmoor has no chance at becoming Americas most popular 6.5 round. Mostly because of timing.

Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.