So we all have to use the "minimum" gun because that's all it takes to kill an animal? I've shot deer with the 45-70 and .450 Marlin. Why? Because I wanted to. I'm not recoil shy (like Boxer) and I like a gun that let me know it went off. Personally the Hornet, .223, and the .22-250 got sold because I didn't really enjoy shooting them anymore. I don't enjoy shooting the .458 Win mag either. Fun for me is somewhere in the middle and yes I can put a .30-06 bullet in a groundhogs head just as cleanly as I could with the .223. The light kickers are for those who don't get out and shoot. Those who do can work their way up to anything.