This thread is funny ........

It supposes that we are currently seeing the wrath of God because of our current level of social depravity. By saying that, we might also suppose that if we were "good" people (and do good works) we might be good enough to escape the wrath of God and be deserving enough to escape hell. There is nothing in us that can ever approach the righteousness required for that and our supposition that we can do-good ourselves into heaven is a lie from the pit.

It is only the grace of God through the cross that can save us. Many will think otherwise.