''Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, '' Ephesians 1:4-5
''The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble. '' Proverbs 16:4
''Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.'' Ephesians 1:4
''And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. '' Revelation 13:8
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5
''To do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place.'' Acts 4:28
So, you can do a Bible search. Now go on and do a search of “free will.” Post the results.
Your one sided view of predestination will be shown to be intellectually biased to the point of being simply dishonest.
Free will is a red herring. I have pointed out that the decision making process is far more complex than the quasi religious term 'free will' can hope to encompass.
The term free will tells us nothing about how or why decisions are made, or human behaviour and its drivers as a whole.
Believers use the term as means of simplistic defense.
Yeah.... yada yada from you..... weak response. Like a child backing away from a fight he knows he cannot win.
So, If have this correct, you cannot provide your thoughts on predestination nor on free will.... you simply retreat to the some sort of mindless cut and paste that you cannot talk to........... or your just opt with some yada yada statement about "Free will is a red herring." You try to cover yourself with some empty comment about "free will tells us nothing about how or why decisions are made......"
Looks like full on retreat to me.
It is your response that is weak and childish....all angst and emotion, accusation and denial.
It's quite clear that you have very little understanding of the subject matter.
Prove me wrong, provide a logical, unemotional argument for free will, a definition, be it compatibalist, libertarian, etc, how it works, evidence for support, with at least one good example.
