BTW Jeff, got my Hoka's. Frigging comfortable. They look like something you'd see in the rest home - fuggly! They're 4oz's lighter than my Salomon X Ultra's (they run larger than the Salomon's, so ordered 1/2 size smaller). Definitely more comfortable. We'll see how they do backpacking. Good thing I use a cane rather than trekking poles - I'll look right at home in the geriatric center smile I turn 62 this month...


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery