Smokepole: I don't think 201k was "crapping" on others who had a different experience at Broadmouth. I think he was just offering a different perspective. As a do it yourselfer on public land you can certainly appreciate the difference. The best analogy I can make is listening to bird hunters who describe their "hunt" in South Dakota at a pheasant ranch shooting pen raised birds that were released the morning just before the "hunters" stepped off the school bus that brought them to the field. If they have never chased wild pheasants through a cattail swamp they just do not know the difference.