Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Originally Posted by Ringman


If you quoted God's Word instead of your constant attack we could have an adult Christian conversation. I have no problem spending hours conversing with Dr. Kindell. He has three doctorates including one in theology. But he is penitent.



Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.


That is pretty plain.
Yep. Pretty clear that Abraham was justified by his faith. Not much good we're capable of doing to earn salvation. The reward for faith is that Jesus satisfies the debt for our sins via his sacrifice on the cross. Of course we should still strive to please God, regardless.