I think Berger threads have been thoroughly run through here on the fire. I'm sure you could find some of those threads if you do the right search. I've had a lot of good experiences with them out of 243, which are 105's, and 30-06 and 300 SAUM, with the 185 and 190gr VLD's. Some claim they are too frangible, but have never seen one of the 30 cals not exit, on both elk and deer, from 30yds to about 550yds, on broadside and somewhat quartering shots. The 243's are a bit light for elk, and they don't have much pop left in them after getting through a front shoulder. They do the job otherwise. They put big holes through deer.

I've found that the Hornady BTHP do exactly the same thing, are just as accurate for me, and are cheaper. Heavy for caliber is key. I still like Bergers in 30 cal, though I haven't used them for a few years.


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