Originally Posted by memtb

ranger1, you have very clearly described what I have been trying to advise others to, long before the Berger “cult” following occurred! When used on large, thick skinned, heavy boned animals......the shot placement must be placed with “near surgical” precision. Until a hunter will pass on many “less than perfect” shots or can guarantee that he can make that shot with “surgical precision”.... these bullets should “not” be used for the above described big game! JMO. memtb


You do know elk are not "thick skinned", right?

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I have seen a schit load of Bergers hit elk shoulders and never ever seen a failure to perform.

I have seen one 105gr 6mm VLD pencil on an elk that went between ribs. Elk was recovered a couple hours later and the location and performance was documented.

Hence my preference to grab some bone on the way in with the 105 VLD but that seems to have been a one off kinda thing.

But your hallucination is duly noted.


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