I reckon, like most expansive type bullets, depends on how fast you're driving them.

That's why I'm trying the 156 EOL in some of my 6.5 rifles. Heavier, slower Berger Hunting bullet may be OK. I've killed deer with 140 VLDH out of the 6.5-284. DRT, but they do frag, have seen multiple exit holes from frag pieces.

For chest shooting WT's they should work OK. I try to stay out of the shoulders to preserve meat.

Like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Parridge was too hot, was too cold, but one was "just right". Finding the "just right" bullet is an art. Gotta find the combo that works.

DF