My magic number is “under the speed limit”. Most of the problem I have is rounding a blind corner in steep hills trying to find truck gears whilst towing and there is a 50 plus year old cyclist in the middle of of the road peddling 90 rpm at almost a stand still. Its fuggin dangerous for everyone because if you have to go other lane to avoid impact another vehicle could be coming around the other curve.

I stay in my lane now because a bicycle causes less damage than a head on with another vehicle.

For my safety and the safety of my family and other drivers I have completely changed my flinch response to bicycles and Subarus

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
I'm all about being athletic and good health, doing it on a roadway, designed for automobiles is not the place. The road our house is on is a major bike challenge. It starts at 5500' and goes to 8500' in a matter of 15 miles or so. It's curvy, no shoulders, and full of blind curves. In the summer, it's a stream of bikers wanting a challenge. So many bikers that we have to wait to exit our driveway. Every year 1-4 of them die or get seriously hurt by cars. (Same with motorcycles hitting 100mph on the same road). It's never the bikers fault though, that's the sucky part. Always the driver. Right... Who has the insurance? The driver. I've done enough expert witness (on other types of cases) to know deep pockets get blamed for a lot of things that wasn't their fault.

When roads are designed for bikers, and bikers pay license plate fees, and are required to have insurance, have headlights/taillights like motorcycles, I'll be open to it. I have no issues with mountain bikers on designated trails, none.

The law provides the framework for determining who is at fault. If a motorist is required to yield right of way, and doesn't, why would it not be their fault?

IF ANYBODY was operating a car or a lawn tractor on the same road, at 7mph, it’d be an automatic ticket for “impeding the flow of traffic”.

Would it be a ticket for a hunter pulling a horse trailer at 5 MPH below the speed limit?

“An operator may not drive so slowly as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.”

5 mph UNDER the speed limit?? No. 5mph??? Yes.

But then again, you already knew that...


What is the magic speed under the limit at which it becomes impeding?

Operative words "in compliance with the law."

Last edited by JohnnyLoco; 10/25/22.