You forgot the ones on .308s and 22lr's! I loved the article in Successful Hunter where Mr. Rees was testing out some binos and a riflescope on a whitetail hunt in Sask. He ended up shooting the 'wrong' buck at 80yds even with the ~$2K in optics he had with him! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />