i have had a leupold 4.5x14 since they first came out, it has been on several rifles that were carried virtually everyday for a lot of years
i virtually never have it on anything but 14,,,the last 3 years a new zeiss 4.5x14 variable has been getting used alot, about 60 coyotes and numerous other animals, i cant think of one that was shot on anything less than 14, with the z800 reticle it works,,,
few days ago i was wishing for 20x as i was looking at some deer, my eyes have really chaged over the years,,,
