Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley


Not following you. Are you disputing the fact that smaller vehicles reduce the amount of traffic congestion in metropolitan areas?


Yes.


This is from personal experience, nothing theoretical about it:

Riding singly vs driving singly, 6-8 people or more occupy the same area in a lane when on scooters/bicycles. Double up in cars, sure, but scooters can double up too then. Since cars are at the same time highly restricted in speed in metropolitan traffic, perhaps 20-30x OR MORE people can use two wheeled vehicles to go from point A to point B in the same amount of time. A commute that normally took 15 minutes in a car, could take an hour during commute periods. Yet it still took just a little bit more than 15 minutes on an electric scooter. I would be joined by dozens upon dozens of other riders at each red light. One thing: this was with a lane dedicated solely to two wheel transit, with a physical boundary between motorists and two wheelers. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever that were all those people that were on two wheels move to cars, then traffic would be quite significantly worse.