Originally Posted by gophergunner
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by gophergunner
Paul, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Bicyclists break far more traffic rules than cars do. If you can't bring your self to admit that, well-that's where we disagree. As far as motorists doing right turns on red, where I live, that's legal, unless otherwise posted. Cyclists turn right, left, and go straight ahead on red regularly. You have to admit this is true Paul. Don't tell me you haven't seen this, and don't tell me you haven't done it.


https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01...k-traffic-laws-any-more-than-drivers-do/

https://jsteelelaw.com/bicycle-prejudices-fail-bikes-break-traffic-laws-less-motorists-study-finds/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlto...ists-finds-new-video-study/#698374e14bfa

https://bicyclecoalition.org/study-shows-cyclists-motorists-break-law-rate-anti-cyclist-angst/


I often run red lights on my bike. When I do it, it enhances the flow of traffic and/or my safety.

Oh this is classic-explain how running stop signs and traffic lights makes things safer for you.


I'll give you one example on a route I take on occasion.

I am northwestbound on Oak St. I am the first vehicle caught at the light at the intersection of Oak and S. Carrollton. My destination is the dedicated bike path at the end of Oak. The light is unusually long. If there are no cars coming on Carrollton, I'll go. That way I am well down Oak when the light changes. I hold up no cars and eliminate the possibility of impatient driver brush passing me. Oak is very narrow and most often has cars parked on each side. When I ride into the driving lane beyond the swing radius of the parked car doors (outside the door zone) the road is so narrow that it's too tight for cars to safely pass me. If I wait for the light to turn green the motorists have a choice. Stay behind me or pass unsafely. The end result is that by running the light I enhance my safety and improve overall traffic flow with no risk to anyone.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oak+St,+New+Orleans,+LA+70118/@29.9480356,-90.1328135,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8620a5159c02980b:0x73a6f4795f6748c5!8m2!3d29.947357!4d-90.129788


That's but one of many examples of how I get the hell out of everyone's way and make it better for all of us. You are on record as wishing I'd wait the light out and hold people up.