Yeah....I figgered as much. I started drawing the line above .380 after my own observations. Not that it can't ever get the job done. Just not enough there for me to have confidence in it.

Originally Posted by DocRocket

I know of several agencies that use the 147 gr 9mm in either WW Ranger Talon or Speer GDHP offerings and have very good records of street performance with them. In the little micro-nines like the Kahr PM9, etc, they are very effective.


Doc - this was surprising to me. I would have bet on the 124gr stuff. Is this an indication that the manufacturers are designing the 147gr bullets to expand at slower velocities now, enough so that the shorter barrels don't negate that benefit?

Seems like I also read somewhere that the heavier bullets are more comfortable in recoil from the mini 9's too. Gonna have to give 'em a try, I guess.


Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.