Well, Doc, you really know how to beat up on an old man. I guess the water jug testing will be relegated to idle fun shooting. I do apreciate the info.
By the way I never tried the Glaser. I didn't like the owner. He was too politically correct for me. Joe, on the otherhand, was my kind of guy.
I remember Bob Hagel told me, about thirty years ago, a 50% mix of fine river silt and 50% fine saw dust was as close as he could get in duplicating the results he got from a bullet fired into game. I never tried his concoction but did use dry oak shavings for some fun testing of rifle and .454 loads. The .454 with Freedom Arms 260 @ 1,925 feet per second out penetrated even the Nosler 7mm 175 Partition @ 3,150 fps. I think it is too much of a good thing for home defence.
