to me the 264 win has been a failure, I don't know if its the way the case is designed or what. it just didn't work out for me. and I tried it twice. I have never had so much trouble being happy with a cartridge than the 264. I also don't know how great an idea it is to try and push match style VLD bullets to excessive speeds. for most of us these are expensive experiments. I don't think berger planned on their 140 vlds' being pushed much beyond 3100 fps.

there have been good reports about the 6.5 saum that GAP rifles has made. if I was wanting a hotrod 6.5 honestly I would have them do it, why because they have the reamer and setup that is already proven. the recipe for them is to load their 6.5 saum to low pressures but still decent speeds. sounds like something a large case 6.5 could also do.