Czech1022,

Sorry not to put it mildly, but where in the hell did you get 24.93 foot-pounds of recoil out of a .300 Winchester and a 180 at 2900+ fps in an 8-pound rifle?

There are a bunch of recoil formulas out there. I just ran the numbers you provided through Sierra's and the recoil came out to almost 30 foot-pounds. My own recoil formula, which I developed over a decade ago, includes a factor for "rocket effect" that most formulas don't. It comes up with 33 foot-pounds.

Anybody who can't tell the difference between the recoil of a .264 Winchester and .270 Weatherby and 130-grain bullets from a .300 Winchester shooting 180's either hasn't shot any of them much, or is one of those iron-shoulder kick-addicts who profess to love getting the snot beaten out of them by a .458 Lott.

I've shot an 8-pound .270 Weatherby with 130's at 3400+ considerablynd it AIN'T a .300 Winchester Magnum.


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