For man stopping, liberals fail to realize bad guys are crazy or on drugs. Pellet gun in my foot will change my mind. But a bad guy might not see it that way.

Chris kyle talked about how he would shoot Muslims 5 or 6 times with 223, but they were full of opium.

Shutting down vitals is a big part of it. Double lung shot they will die. But there has to be some gain from blunt trauma. How much is over kill, howuch is needed for your area, or all the variable a hunter weighs.

50 call is probably going to cut some yards off. But.what else is important?