Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Hastings
I will be surprised if a Pawnee County Oklahoma jury would convict the truck driver. All a jury has to have is reasonable doubt to acquit. I would have been in fear for my family in this situation. It will be hard for the prosecution to show that there wasn't a self defense motive guiding the truck drivers actions or to show these actions to be excessive. He called for help and neutralized the person closest to his wife and children. Police response cannot be counted on in rural areas. They could easily be 30 miles away. This case will be decided in rural Oklahoma, not San Francisco or New York. We will see.


Prosecution counsel will ask him why if he were in fear for his life did he not call (or have his wife call) 911 too. Prosecution will ask him how he managed to pass the motorcyclists on one road, but couldn't find the horsepower to pull away on the ambush road. Prosecution will ask him what imminent physical threat he faced when he stepped out of his truck with his brother providing shotgun cover. But then again, it is Oklahoma, so who knows what you'll get in a jury.


You are not making sense here. We don't know what happened before the video started. So your whole premise for your comments are unsupported. We don't know he passed any motorcycles anywhere. Didn't you notice it was rural and could take quite awhile for authorities to arrive if at all. In our county we can't expect the sheriff to come at all.


We don't know. We only know what one of the kids said. And that is that the truck passed them in a no passing zone and cut dangerously close to them when he reentered the lane. We can choose to believe that or choose to believe that the college kids just randomly chose this particular idiot to phuc with. I choose the former. I don't have a lot of faith in 911 in my area, but rest assured if I think I am in danger and may have to use physical force, I will call 911. If for no other reason to have it on the record. Who knows, it may save me the trouble of using physical force and going to jail for it. I feel pretty sure the prosecution would ask him what physical threat the driver faced as he exited his vehicle, advanced on the kid and began assaulting him. Don't you? You also need to measure my comments against the post they were in response to.