Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Hastings
I will be surprised if a Pawnee County Oklahoma jury would convict the truck driver. All a jury has to have is reasonable doubt to acquit. I would have been in fear for my family in this situation. It will be hard for the prosecution to show that there wasn't a self defense motive guiding the truck drivers actions or to show these actions to be excessive. He called for help and neutralized the person closest to his wife and children. Police response cannot be counted on in rural areas. They could easily be 30 miles away. This case will be decided in rural Oklahoma, not San Francisco or New York. We will see.


Prosecution counsel will ask him why if he were in fear for his life did he not call (or have his wife call) 911 too. Prosecution will ask him how he managed to pass the motorcyclists on one road, but couldn't find the horsepower to pull away on the ambush road. Prosecution will ask him what imminent physical threat he faced when he stepped out of his truck with his brother providing shotgun cover. But then again, it is Oklahoma, so who knows what you'll get in a jury.


You are not making sense here. We don't know what happened before the video started. So your whole premise for your comments are unsupported. We don't know he passed any motorcycles anywhere. Didn't you notice it was rural and could take quite awhile for authorities to arrive if at all. In our county we can't expect the sheriff to come at all.

Prosecution may not get to ask the truck driver anything. He does not have to testify. When "college student motorist" takes the stand the defense will get to ask him a lot about chasing after someone for 14 miles with a pack of motorcycles. The truck driver's wife and kids will testify about how scared they were. Motorcycle boys are the ones who needed to call police if they wanted to deal with a traffic violation. I probably have 50 to 60 thousand miles of motorcycle riding and I was cut off all the time. Came to expect it. On my worst day I would not have dreamed of chasing down a redneck (or anyboby else) on a rural road. Truck driver does not have to prove anything. The prosecutor does. Pawnee County has a population of about 15-16 thousand. The jury will be rural country people and they will be appalled at the motorcycle riders behavior.


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