d500lnn: I must draw your attention to a couple of more "quality" items that sold on this forum very recently! The two "quality" items that sold (from two different sellers here-on!) sold very QUICKLY! One sold in two minutes and the other apparently sold in 0 (zero!) minutes! The quality items that you do not think have a chance of selling here-on were both Leupold scopes one a 4x12 with A/O and the other a Leupold variable unknown if it had an A/O. Further proof that your original contention was/is completely specious (without merit!)! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: I again notice that YOU are still frequenting the want-ads here - have you learned the error of your ways, DICK?