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Re: Spring Bears.... who is gonna hunt ? Santiam #8812345 04/26/14 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,260 G Greenhorn Campfire Regular Greenhorn Campfire Regular G Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,260 Santium, great photos!

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