Well, I'm ticked to say the least, and will probably get the boot from this site for what I'm about to say, but it needs to be said.
I ordered a stock through Rick Bin from McMillan in November and waited a rediculous amount of time to finally get it. When it finally arrived, it was a mess. The recoil pad was the wrong size and the top layer of rubber had been completely ground through, and the bolt notch looked like it had been cut out with a butter knife. I talked to Rick, he blamed McMillan, McMillan blamed him, but he took it back and reinstalled the pad and fixed the bolt notch. He did a great job and turned it around in three weeks and fine. I then proceeded to bed the rifle and get things rolling, but soon discovered that the LOP was a 1/2" longer than I had ordered. After Rick had had this twice and it still wasn't right, I decided to deal with McMillan direct. I talked to Kelly, and he agreed to personally look after it and turn it around in a week and I foolishly believed him.
Well, I recieved the stock from McMillan today, four weeks after sending it to them, and what another mess. They replace the swivel studs to stainless as I had originally ordered, but the front stud is sticking 1/4" below flush and won't screw in any farther, and the paint job is horendous. This stock now has three coats of paint (bloody rediculous considering it is an edge stock ordered for weight reduction) and it's spotty. Someone got a little slap happy with the grinder installing pad number three and forgot to paint their screw up. Pinto look maybe? I had also asked them to mask the bedding and they did part of it, so some is painted and some isn't.
So, great discount Rick Bin gives has now cost me money ($50.00 in shipping expenses so far) and this thin still aint right. I'm amazed at what $500.00 US won't buy.
Chuck
I'm sorry to hear that this has been a bad experience for you ... I'm waiting to get my first A5 back from McM this week ... it had to go back because the bbl channel inletting was not done quite right ... we'll see how it turns out for me ...
Chuck, on your postal scale, what's it weigh now?
22.5 oz's, which makes me smile. Loosing 1/2" helps.
Chuck
Bummer as every product I have ever gotten from McMillan that no other person modified has been perfect. More than 20 stocks over the years.
Sorry to hear it Chuck,
We all know that Rick will do any and everthing possible to have a happy customer. That said,
It's to bad Mcmillan didnt take care of Rick in the first place.
They should have never passed the buck and taken the bull by the horns and made it right. Sloppy CS and sloppy work to say the least.
Where do you go from here?
I would have Mcmillan send the brown man and pick up the stock at their expense then have them start all over. They should put you first in line.
Chuck, what's McMillan say they'll do about this mess?
My guess,cast from the Peanut Gallery,is that all will be reolved.
It always is.................................
I don't think anyone doubts that it will get resolved ... I think that Chuck's point is that it's ridiculous that this situation evolved as it did, and is still not resolved yet ... at least that's my understanding...
and I tend to agree, that this is something that should have never got this far ... but who am I to cast stones, as I've made my share of mistakes, and let things get way out of hand in my life from time to time ... and when I look back, I wonder how the hell I ever let things get that out of control ... Does that make me a bad guy, or irresponsible? I'd like to think not, ... and with respect to that, I agree that McMillan needs to have the opportunity to complete this project to the satisfaction of the customer ... again, I'm sure they will in the end ...
"Bummer as every product I have ever gotten from McMillan that no other person modified has been perfect. More than 20 stocks over the years."
Your only as good as your last job.
[bleep] happens,but most importantly,it's how the [bleep] is dealt with.
Having dealt with both parties mentioned,I feel confident in opining that things will be resolved..........................
Yep, maybe trip number four will get her ironed out...
Chuck:
There should be not a thought on your end as to being banned from this site for airing a legit grievance.
As I stated before, you ordered through me, so the buck stops with me, no excuses, and I'll do whatever I can in my power to make it right. The blame is solely on me.
If you're not happy with the paint, I'll be glad to paint it again for you, gratis of course, and I'll cover shipping each way. The pad is your call. Tell me what you don't like about the grind, and I'll do my best to make it right.
Rick
Exactly!
I'd be looking for a new job by now!
[bleep] happens,but most importantly,it's how the [bleep] is dealt with.
Having dealt with both parties mentioned,I feel confident in opining that things will be resolved..........................
Given the circumstances, that's the dumb comment of the day.
Tough to speak for anyone else,but [bleep] do happen.
According to above text,resolutions lie in your lap.
I'd reckon you've been led to water......................
The pad is just fine, it's the friggin paint job, and the swivel studs. How does [bleep] like that make it out the door?!!!!!. I'm not waiting another day for that stock to be made right. 7 mnths is long enough, and I'll pay another party to make it right if I have to. I'm done dealing with you guys on this stock. DONE!
Chuck
Guess you ain't thirsty.......................
It seems like Rick has offered to make the stock right for you on his nickel(s). Since he can turn back time, what more can he do to make you happy?
Jeff
Here's a resolution for ya. Send me a stock that I can use. I'll send the other one back and whomever wants can shove it where the sun don't shine. They've had three chances to get it right, do you think a fourth go will help! Good grief man, if your boys screwed up that much you'd ride em out on a rail. No? Give your head a shake.
What are the specs on your stock?
Jeff
Chuck ... at the risk of getting too involved in something that is not my business ... I might suggest that you refrain from adding more to this thread until you cool down. It's obvious that you've boiled over, and I can't blame you. However, adding your very emotional comments about the situation is not helping anyone, including yourself.
This too shall pass brother ...
Bottom line dude, I've been strung a line from day 1 via all parties involved, and am sick of it. Noone want to be accountable. THREE TIMES!
I'm not thinking it plausible,that barking at me,is gonna change the handle in your hands...but I'll be happy to letcha try.
Take a deep breath,get the [bleep] thing fixed and carry on.
No big deal.................................
Rick wrote that the buck stopped with him, what more can he do to make you happy? What action is your McM inletted for? I probably have 100+/- stocks around and if I do have 1 that will fit your action size/style and barrel contour, I could send it to you to use until you and Rick sort out the problem.
Jeff
Might should add,that despite aesthetics not being paramount in my book,I do remain a diehard gelcoat fan,for the obvious reasons.
It never don't work,though it's my understanding that Swirls and Such ain't an EDGE option.
Dat's too bad.......................
Chucky,
Post pictures. I want to see.
I'm thinkin' you've got every right to be pi$$ed. Am also thinkin' everybody's on your side and shares the frustration. At the end of it all, you're still holdin' a stock you ain't happy with and Rick will make it right. Send it back and get it fixed.
Chuck, if someone truly took ownership of the end-to-end process, this would not happen. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Rick has offered to make good, but I can relate to your three strikes and you're fired approach. I'd take this offline with either Rick or MCM or both.
Personally, I can't wait until D' Arcy's stocks become available. I'd also have one of our 'named' smiths do the installation.
Cheers,
CL
Isn't this the wronghanded 70,with aftermarket bottom metal?
Nothing in my stash,would fit that..........................
I like to deal with the Manufacturer direct,whenever possible.
That eliminates all finger pointing.......................
LEFThand- don't be derogatory- not very becoming of anyone and just adding fuel to the fire.
I understand your frustration, this problem is made more complicated and expensive by the fact that Chuck has to ship a "gun part" over the border and back. Most of us when we get something that's a problem from a vendor in the US, just chalk it up as a loss, it's not worth the hassle.
Let Rick make it right.
my 2 cents.
Martin
MFG. direct usually does eliminate most finger pointing.
I realize wronghandedness is a physical affliction,but I don't believe it to be a dirty word(though perhaps CLOSE).(grin)
Sister is plagued,but is right eye dominant,so is getting by wronghandeder than most............................
It's how you used the word (given the situation/context) that could possibly be perceived as derogatory- not dirty. Please see
www.dictionary.com for details (now that's definitely derogatory <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)
I would like to see some pictures as well...
Laffin' here,you Canucks are a highstrung lot.
Now I can't know if that was vile,gregarious,jovial,derogatory or dirty...................(grin)
Chuck,
First let me say I understand your frustration. For the price you pay for a McMillan Edge stock ($500) you expect it to be PERFECT.
I have ordered stocks directly from McMillan and had to send them back. McMillan went out of their way to fix them.
I ordered an AI stock through Rick. There was a problem, and Rick made it right.
When Rick says that the buck stops here...he means it.
Settle down, and decide exactly what you want to do. I am confident Rick will make it right.
Sorry for all your trouble.
GB
Stick, maybe he should of bought a Bansner!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Ignore the well defined lighter line as that is a funny flash bounce off of the tool box. The cloud like patterned crap is it. If you really want the affect, take sanpaper to a freshly painted stock and you'll get the idea.
They ought to kick the guy that installed that stud back to Mexico.
Chuck
Chuck, the rear stud sometimes has a longer "shank" than the front stud... got them backwards perhaps?
Take a better photo of the butt... looks pretty bad tho!
A shortened stud can be installed in seconds,as to the paint,the pictures reveal little.
I pull the studs out and 5-minute epoxy them in,as a matter of SOP......................
Chuck also, is that a 1" Decelerator on the rear?
Photo makes it look thinner.
Like I said, take sandpaper to a painted stock, and you'll soon get the idea.
The stud I've dealt with, and mine get glued in as well.
Brad, it's an inch.
Are you at home?
Chuck
I'm a poor aesthetics barometer,because I weigh function firstly..................................
I'm thinking McMillan should find out EXACTLY what Chuck wants and bend over backwards to get it to him ASAP at NO CHARGE......the frustration he has been through is worth more than the price of the stock!!!
For what a McMillan costs........there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the poor quality we can see in the photo!!! I would not allow them another chance at "fixing" the stock........they either need to refund every single cent he has spent or they need to send him a new stock at no charge.....or, preferrably both!
Up to this point function has been the issue, although painting the bedding at the tang may still be, yet it's becomming a bit of a joke regardless.
While I'm frusterating myself with the camera, I hope you get the three color scheme idea.
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Was it McMillan that didn't screw the stud in all the way and left a scratch in the paint?
What am I missing? How come everyone is yelling?
Come on..someone clue me in..........................
Chuck,
In the image on the grass,there is some aberrations in the paint. Is that what has you all nutted up?
Any chance it coulda been scuffed in shipment? Our stuff gets beat to hell on the average,via Mail Courier. I've received goods way more troubled than that.
Just trying to clarify the gripe.........................
thanks for the pics..
I'd rage if I paid $500 and waited as long as you.
I think you need to contact McMillan directly and speak to the owner. If that doesn't resolve it contact the Better Business Bureau in McMillian's neck of the woods. That usually gets things moving.
www.bbb.org
WTF am I missing?
What ball did McMillan drop?.....................
you can't see that botched paint job? It's really bad and I'm sure it looks worse in the flesh.
Looks like they started with the grinder on the first two coats and changed their mind? Brushed the third coat?
I can't see hardly anything more than a glitch.
Curious to know why happiness can't be resolved,via Rick's initial offer? Really can't fathom squealing like a bitch to the BBB or anyone else,either.
So the gripe is the paint job and it was offered to tweak it gratis,including S&H?
WTF am I missing?............................
I think the only thing you're "missing" is that this would be "effort no. 4" in the healing process ... almost 6 full months have passed, and he's still dealing with problems, however minor they might seem...
again, for the record, I see no reason this issue can't be put to rest with complete, final satisfaction ... but having to thru all this to get there, when dealing the entire time with the top of the heap (McMillan and Rick) .... well, that would be frustrating for just about anyone, no?
I think the frustration, more than anything, is the incredible amount of time and effort it's taken to get this far, and he's still not "there" yet ... but all of this is just my simple interpretation ... ymmv
I'd be curious to see photos of the whole process. Scratches/scritches,don't rock my boat,so that is difficult for me to fathom.
I'd of hit it with Krylon and killed somethin',but dat's me.
I'm not Ms. Cleo,but my impression of Mr. Rick's sincerity,is that it is genuine.
WTF am I missing?...........................
again ... I'm not calling Rick or McMillan into question ... in fact, I've said (in my own way) that I think very highly of Rick, and that he's laid the path to success at Chuck's feet ...
Not a gripe with you by any means ... but you're a unique one ... you've had LOTS of dealings with McM and Rick ... you've got more rifles of your own that a lot of us combined ... for you,
waiting on something like this to be made right is not a problem ... but for some people, it is ... and there-in lies the problem.
It's just that the same thing can be completely different for two people ... I think the distance between your thinking/personality and Chuck's thinking/personality is the great divide ... if you're missing anything, I'd say that's it ...
but then again, I'm inclined to think you don't miss much, when it comes to things like this ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
For $500.00 it should be right the 1st time and at the worst 2nd time but never never go as far as being sent back to make it right 3 or more times. You pay the cash to have a light weight stock you don't need 3 coats of paint on it to make weight any more!!!
if you can't bloody read, that is your problem. These fine gentlemen have danced this "send it back and we'll make it right routine" three times already. If you can't figure that one out I don't know what else to tell you. The stock has had three pads, three paint jobs.................DUDE.
Not only that, but I've been flat out lied to by both Rick Bin and Kelly McMillan through the process.
Keep digging you idiot and I'll post more.
Chuck
My thinking is simple: In Life,you can either laugh or cry. Tough to kick the smile off my face and a scratch ain't doin' it,especially after amends have been offered gratis.
Guess a guy could always stay mad,not have it "fixed" and use it as a pouting stick.
My thinking can't align with any of them notions,when it's so easy to be happy...................
I should probably just keep my typing finger mouth shut on this thread, but:
1.For the amount of money paid I'd expect perfection. (Rick has offered it and I believe should be given the opportunity to provide it..even if it is the 2nd,3rd, 4th whatever time)He's good to his word and if it went to him the last time probably wouldn't need this step anyway!
2.Although the first time I carried that rifle with my deer stand on my back it would be roughed up worse then that I'd still want it right to start with!
3.I bet the receptionist at McMillan knows studs don't go out like that front one so somebody needs to spend a little while in time out down there<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
4.By airing this legitimate grievance on the free board Rick provides us, you OWE him the chance to resolve it on his nickel as stated..and then show us again when he makes it right.
5. Last and most importantly we need a full range report once that baby is put together..
Mike
Not only that, but I've been flat out lied to by both Rick Bin and Kelly McMillan through the process.
Keep digging you idiot and I'll post more.
Chuck
WOW ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Haven't reached for the shovel yet,but I can,should it please your senses.
I can count to 3 and beyond,but that's semantics.
I'd be inclined to state plainly,via text,my desired alterations to the existing theme,which would grant you the warm/fuzzy. Pissin' and moanin',don't do much more than humor The Gallery,though they're likely grateful for the antics(kinda digging it,myself).
That a miscommunication mighta happened,wouldn't much catch me by suprise. You've a product of reknown,backed by both the Manufacturer and the "middle man",but that still isn't good enough?
I cain't cypher it as being a personal vendetta,orchestrated by two gents in the US to bust your Canuckian balls.
Take a deep breath,close your hole,get the damn thing fixed in the manner you're happy with.
Gratis is fairly affordable.................................
Alright, Rick told me when the pad went back the first time for repare that he didn't install that screwed up pad, McMillan did. Called McMillan and spoke with Dick Davis and he says they ship Rick unpadded blanks. HMMMM. Honourable bunch so far, and I guess the UPS guy installs pads. Being played a fool pisses me off. But out of the goodness of his heart, Rick pays for and fixes McMillans screw up on his dime. What a pathetic joke. Then the wrong LOP, and I can't deal with this guy anymore so I explain myself very ernestly to Kelly McMillan and he says ship the stock attn him and he will personally see that it is fixed and turned around in a week. Well it gets there and I get a call from one of McMillans friendly receptionsts wondering why I've sent this stock. I explain, and she replies, "Oh, I guese that is why it says attn Kelly on the box". I guess I say. Well I call back a week later and am told I'm stupid to expect Kelly to look after this stock and turn it around in a week. Apparently, so I leave a voicemail for Kelly (still hasn't returned the call). Now I get this stock that I'm guessing Kelly never even bothered to look at it as he said he would. Eigther that, or he can't see to well. So now another liar.
I'm tired of being jerked around and these "free" fixes now total $41.00. Noone has offered to cover the shipping.
Why would I trust eigther party anymore and why should I wait 7 months for a stock? Gratis my rear.
perfection is expected for the tune of $500? your standards are a lot higher than mine.
i fully understand your unhappy with the whole process, and i expect i would bitch a bit too, however i would keep sending it back on Ricks dime till i was happy since he has offered. might not personally use him again but i would keep sending it to him till it was to my standard and i dont have 1/8 of the extra toys to play with that Stick does in the time being. some things just aint worth the heart burn and $500 is one even if i dont make big $. i basically through away $1500 on a custome rifle a few years ago that a smith totally f'ed up i sat and bitched at him for a couple months before starting to air my problems here.
near as i can tell one of the main things Rick has to go by for his buisness is his reputation here. i highly doubt he would risk that for his cut of a single $500 stock
near as i can tell one of the main things Rick has to go by for his buisness is his reputation here. i highly doubt he would risk that for his cut of a single $500 stock
Amen ... now pass the pork rinds <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I'm not much on hypothesizing who said what,but results do interest me.
If I Mail you a check for $41,will you shut the [bleep] up and let Rick fix it? Or hell,we could take donations...I can't be the only one to rate your coming unhinged,as a commodity worthy of payment?
Gratis is fairly affordable........................
You'd think wouldn't you.
I'm done here, I've said my beef, and in my mind have been screwed. I don't like it, but will deal with it. Just remember, that there is more to some than meets the eye. I assure you that I'm not the only one here that has figured that one out.
Chuck
I'll send you $50 if you'll do the same, and I'm sure donations for that would be easier to come by.
Start that fund drive,impress me..................
sorry to hear about your dealings on the stock
if it were me, I'd be sending it back to Rick, on his $, until everything was right
for the $ you forked out, you should get a quality product, no doubt. so many hoops to jump through sometimes, a guy can get tired.
Can toss you another cookie.
MPI just sent me a voucher for $20 off,I can mail it gratis.
Card says: "Over 25 Years In Business!"......................
I think the McMillan family had some grandchildren playing in the shop on Sunday . . .
That ain't a $500 stock, not that way.
Chuck,
What's the stock worth to ya?
You obviously don't want it, and you don't want it fixed (Rick's offered). So, part with it. What's it worth to you? What are the specs?
Purchase an MPI with a mirror finished paint job and get back to me.
I can toss you a $20 head start.................(grin)
Really can't fathom squealing like a bitch to the BBB or anyone else,either.
The BBB is there to resolve comsumer complaints like this one. Based on what I have seen in this thread I think you should contact them and let it proceed from there. Three times is two times too many. You are not dealing with a very complex product here. Screwing it up three times is pretty pathetic in my book.
I have bought at least 4 McMs via Rick, another dozen or so directly from McM, and even a couple inventory reduction deals from Midway. I did have trouble with 2 stocks that I bought from Rick, they are Rem 7 style stocks and were advertised as being inletted for Rem 7 actions. When I got them, I found that they were inletted for Rem 700 SAs instead. Rick offered to take them back with a full refund, but I've always got a Rem 700 SA project floating around, so I kept them. Other than that, I've never had a problem with a McM. Rick has always been more than fair when dealing with me and I doubt that he lied to you over a $500 stock. Yes, it should have been right the 1st time. Yes, you've got a right to be pissed. But it seems to me that you'd be ahead of the game by letting Rick fix the problem and Stick has even gone so far as to offer to reimburse you for your previous shipping expenses. What more can anyone do to help?
Jeff
Beargrease, any contact to the BBB will result in them looking at it, and seeing as how the distributor (Rick) has offered to fix it on his nickel, or (likely) offer a full refund, their response is going to be to either [bleep] or get off the pot, one way or the other...
[bleep] happens, everywhere and with everything. This one sucks, yeah, but everything that can be done at this point has been offered.
So, what's the value of it now, Chuck? Seriously...
Curious here,is the BBB good at fitting pads and applying paint?
I cain't shift my brain into a gear low enough,to mull the thought................................
I'm 30+ handles deep,sourced via McMillan and a bunch more sourced from other vendors(all McMillan).
I patiently await the first malady.
Pards are good for probably 50 more and have the same "luck" factor........................
Am thinkin' a Jolly Roger would cover that spot up nicely. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Pard,you're Management material.........................(grin)
What sense does it make to try and convince an unhappy man....that he should be happy?
After all, it is his $$, time, and effort....not any of ours.
I think Rick did his part, trying to make it right, why does anyone have a dog in this fight?
Suppose it does make for interesting commentary, though....
For the record, not that it matters, if it were my 550$, 7 months, and consequent headache.....I'd be pizzed off...and the last thing I would want is someone, with no stake, telling me how I should feel......or deal with it.
But, then again, I suppose posting it here opened up the gate for opinions....
HoundGirl
Rick sounds like a good man and if it was me I would send it back to him and I would bet $500 cash it will be right this time.
Rick sounds like a good man and if it was me I would send it back to him and I would bet $500 cash it will be right this time.
Yeah, I just can't think of an alternative. At $500 in, you gotta keep dancin' wif who brung ya!
You wouldn't know a McMillan from Massengill.
That the crux escapes you,don't suprise me.
Let the men talk...................
Punting don't make any sense,fiscal or otherwise....................
Least the BBB will see to it the dispute is resolved one way or another and not dragged out any longer. This is pure and simple a result of poor customer service. I don't know if Rick has people working for him or what but someone really dropped the ball after the first time the stock was returned. What happened to the concept the "customer is always right"? More than one little business became a big business based on that philosiphy.
Lemme guess,you ran home from school to tattle on your peers?!!?
Some things make alotta sense...............
Rollin' Here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Classic. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
How many popsicle sticks can a guy get for $20 bucks?
Hmmmmmmmm............
Dug up a freaking water tank for the 3rd time today, this time the heat trace went bad, warranty will replace the heat trace, but not the replacement cost of 30 ft. of copper tubing, my plumbers hours, and the equipment costs to move 30 bucket loads of cover dirt.
Was on the verge of being pizzed to the max for a minute, and then thankfully it hit me as my two boys was walking up the driveway.
Some poor SOB is looking down at his kid in a hospital bed, wondering WTF?
I really ain't got any problems, but if I let myself get worked up I can imagine some pretty good ones.
Sucks about the stock, can't be fun, still I'd trade you for this freaking water tank dilemma (at least you can mail yours off) but all in all I like the chickenchit stuff I have to deal with, I'd hate to have real problems.
Tough to argue with that. Thanks for that prospective.
I took the little guy on a recycling run and then for ice cream tonight. He fell asleep before I could get him to the shop and the promissed treat. Hope he forgives me in the morning. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Chuck
why does anyone have a dog in this fight?
Because many of us here have done business with Rick and in the event there is a screw-up he is there to back it up!! Always has been. Never met the man in person, but I would like to ... & that's sayin' sumptin, I like my dogs more than 80% of the BS'ers here, there's a crew that is real, but too many that are full of chit!!! (It ain't hard to tell the difference).
I know Chuck has a beef & perhaps rightly so, but going elsewhere is cuttin' off your nose to spite your face! Give Rick a second chance AND BE SPECIFIC WHAT YOU WANT!!! You'll get it.
Why else would I have a dog in this fight??, simple. Rick runs a fabulous site here and most can say what they want .... I doubt there is another board on the 'net that a user could "piss" on the owners wheaties and stay a member!!! Says a lot about the man!! I am also a firm believer of supporting those who support me. I may pay a buck or two more when buying from Rick on some occasions (rare but have occured), but I know I'm supporting the man who has given us this forum and I sleep well at nite knowing it. The more wares he peddles the better this place becomes! Look at us ... over 10,000 people, when I joined there was just over 2000 (cain't remember my # at this time). This place rocks because of Rick .... this is why I pick my dog.
Nothin' against Chuck, whilst I haven't read all his posts, there typically seems to be little BS in them, just like there is little BS in the post that started this thread ..... hardheadedness, perhaps. ... but how many here don't suffer from that??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I would gladly cut the stock in two for him.
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Chuck
Chuck, sometimes you have to cut your losses. Can you just get a refund and move on?
I finally said to hell with Zeiss after they screwed me 3 times in a row. People here love them, but they screwed me out of 2 months of shooting and a lot of shipping costs.
Sure hope you read my whole post, and noticed that I said that Rick HAD done his part.
I, too, can't imagine Rick flaking out...and if I were Chuck...I'd take Rick up on his offer....and the deal would be sealed, hopefully. But I'm not Chuck, nor am I there to see the probs with the gun.
I only commented because you got a whole host of people telling Chuck how he should feel/deal...and since it ain't my/your 550$, 7 months, and pain in the azz, I thinik the fact he is upset shouldn't be up for some nail salon drama...but maybe I am missing something.....
Had to google "massingill"....and laughed, cuz it was a good one. Sometimes I wonder why I even try try, lol....I'll "let the men talk".....and hedge out, now....
HoundGirl
Being pissed and mad,ain't always a bad thing. It don't hurt for a guy to vent,it adds longevity,because stress kills.
I always thought that Riggin' Fits oughtta be an Olympic Event.
The stock issue remains no big deal,to get ship shape..........................
Sure hope you read my whole post, ...
I did ... and answered the question you posed to us. I can understand his anger, I think we have all BT/DT with something at some point in our lives. Ain't you buyin' a house that's rackin' you around pretty bad? I don't recall tellin' Chuck what he should feel ... ain't much worried about his feelers. Perhaps after he rants, he'll have Rick fix it or perhaps he'll make a big pile of molten goo outta the stock & "cut his losses" ... its his pile of Dead Presidents (or whomever they put on their money up there ... Celine Dion??).
You asked, why pick a dog? Now you know why I (& perhaps one or two others) picked our dog.
Would that stock fit a 22 inch braked Tikka in a 270 WSM? I'm thinkin that might be a sweet combo. Sorry, Sam
Ain't you buyin' a house that's rackin' you around pretty bad?
Must we go there <groan>?
No hitting below the belt, eh, lol?!
I know, I asked the question....but I wanted to make sure you understood that I wasn't bashing on Rick......just saying that Chuck should be allowed to feel what he feels.....cuz, in the end, it ain't our time and $$....
Now I'll shut up for good....hopefully <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />....
Hound'gill"
lol...
Lemme guess,you ran home from school to tattle on your peers?!!?
Some things make alotta sense...............
Like I value the opinion of someone in BF Alaska?
Houndgirl, do you even own a gun yet?
The Celine comment,shot coffee out my nose.
Too funny.............................
Houndgirl, do you even own a gun yet?
Why, yes, I do.
Rem Model 7, S/S, in .308 (synthetic).
S&W 586, .357mag
Mossberg 46M(a) in .22LR
I have a long way to go, but don't cut me short, as I am trying to learn.....and am a pretty good shot.....given I have only been doing this less than a year now.
Surely, you had to get your feet wet at some point, somehow.....that is all I am trying to do....but I also got a big ole mouth that I can't seem to shut <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
I was only giving my perspective, like everyone else.....
HoundGirl
I would gladly cut the stock in two for him.
Chuck
Good lookin' lad. Had blood on his hands yet? I bet you're itchin' for the chance.
Can't wait to see my girl whack her first bruiser.
Christ, between the Douglas barrel post and this I will need to unload my entire stash and start buying Tikka's.....
I'll take the 250 and the 8x57. What caliber Tika do you want in trade....(grin) I'll even upgrad to Millet bases for you....
Oh, and a richards stock too....(grin)
The Natives sometimes get restless.
It too,shall pass..................(grin)
Chuck sorry to hear about the problems with your McMillan stock. I had problems with mine where the inletting was wrong & floorplate stuck out 1/4 inch, copped flack from Rick & Kelly for ordering a stock configuration they didn't make. Of course Big Stick had his say like here without a real knowlege of what was going on.
Anyway it didn't happen to him so of course the solution is easy. Even if the problem gets fixed but you're pissed off in the process & you are not a satisfied customer are you? Well I've been there & done that.
What McMillan was prepared to do for me after they investigated further was to let me keep the stock to use till they made a new one correctly. That may be an acceptable solution for you and you get no down time. So keep that in mind.
I have realised that when we play with custom guns or customising even we have to be prepared for " contingencies ". Heck I am sure that these " suppliers" drive gunsmiths mad and they are accustomed to fixing things. Fact is to be in business they have to get reasonable volumes & mistakes will be made. Not just McMillan either, my friend ordered an Accuracy Innovations stock & got the same problem as mine (also MRC short action but did not protrude as much). Another stock was supplied many months later & it had the inletting for the wrong barrel contour. Back to square 1 again. My friend is now considering buying a factory gun!!!
So you are not alone but as someone else has said here there are more important things to worry about & after all that tomorrow the sun will still shine.
I'd also suggest from here on you resolve this matter privately with the parties involved.
Regards
JohnT
You wouldn't know a McMillan from Massengill.
That the crux escapes you,don't suprise me.
Let the men talk...................
I know no harm was intended but that was phuuukin funny.
I'm amazed at what $500.00 US won't buy.
Chuck for $549.00 US you can buy a A-bolt, not only do you get the stock, but you get the entire rifle
Great shooters too I might add. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Had to google "massingill"....and laughed, cuz it was a good one. Sometimes I wonder why I even try try, lol....I'll "let the men talk".....and hedge out, now....
HoundGirl
Why do they call it a disposable anyway? Would someone keep them for a collection.
To reuse beaver scrubber is really cheap in my book. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
There ya go pard, everything else aside if ya ain't smilin' you missed somethin'. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Had to google "massingill"....and laughed, cuz it was a good one.
That can't be a good thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Uoo Uooo That Smell, Can't You Smell That Smell...............
I just spewed coffe all over my monitor....WTF, that was PF !
Tony
For $500.00 it should be right the 1st time and at the worst 2nd time but never never go as far as being sent back to make it right 3 or more times.
DUDE!!!
Glad you haven't walked into a Mercedes showroom lately & plunked down more than a few Benjamins & then expected perfection. Great way to pi** in your cereal.
There are worse things in life, especially when the offer is there to make things right...
I've seen some very level headed, tolerant people lately get totally unhinged after springing pretty big loot for their new Benzes, spending more time in loaner Ford Tauruses from the local dealer than in their rides, while the dealer techs try to polish the turds oozing of the production lines...
badger
So Chuck, any word from Rick a check's forthcoming to cover your shipping costs?
Of course not.
And just for an FYI, I've been dealing with these guys off board and in private for quite some time and it has got me nowhere. They've told me to send it back "we'll make it right" just like Rick has stated here. But it hasn't happened. Why would the next time be any different? That is my beef.
"It's a form of insanity to do the same thing and expect a different result."
Einstein was no dummy...
Chuck
You got 2 options
1 Let Rick fix it
2 Sell it and forget it
You made your point....pissin and moanin ain't gonna get you
anyplace.
I waited 2 years three months for a custom rifle.When I got it
is was FUBAR.Had it in my hands less than 36 hours before I
sent it to someone else.If you feel Rick/McMillan can't do the
job,the sooner you sell it the faster you get past it.
I'll give you $300 for it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Stick,you one funny sum bitch.
Jeff, you paying postage from AB...?
Thought not...
Well, actually Jeff, he has three options:
1) he can keep it and continue to b!tch and moan about it;
2) he can send it to Rick and get Rick to fix it; or
3) he can sell it, and now has an offer for $300 on it.
And, yeah, 'Stick is one funny sumbitch... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
he can send it to Rick and get Rick to fix it
Third time... hmmm.
Va, you picking up the postage from AB?
Though not...
No, but it weren't my f'k up.
Seems as I recall that both Rick and 'Stick have offered to cover shipping. I figure that if he wants that option, he's got it covered pretty well.
Like I said, he still has three options, anyway you slice it.
Both Rick and McMillan have proven that they are incapable of fixing it. Bottom line.
So, you've ruled out one option. Great.
That leaves two options:
1) keep it and continue to bi!tch and complain about it; or
2) sell it.
Your choice.
Seems as I recall that both Rick and 'Stick have offered to cover shipping.
Rick hasn't covered ANY shipping yet... why would a third time be different?
I paid shipping to Rick the first time for this stock because I'd intercepted the POS before it went over the border. I didn't want Chuck to reimburse me but a check arrived in the mail anyway... that's the "word is his bond" type of person Chuck is.
Obviously resolution is not the point of the post...
Still two options left...
Pony up boys... you're plenty srtrong with opinion's but weak on action.
I tender a fair offer for such a [bleep] up stock.
If it's as bad as stated he sould be happy to get rid of it.
Never paid full price at a fire sale yet...
Look, I am not trying to be an azz... though I'm probably succeeding anyway...
I have to solve client's problems that are a lot worse than this one every day.
Rule #1 is identify the problem, which y'all have done.
Rule #2 is to identify any and all practical/possible solutions, which was done.
Rule #3 is to eliminate options until you are left with the one the client has chosen, even if by default, to take.
So, you've got two options. Either choose one, or eliminate one; the choice is yours.
Pony up what?
He has a valid offer, and he has a choice between two options.
He can take $300, he can offer it up for sale for more than that, or he can keep it. He eliminated the "get it fixed/right" solution. The onus is on the manufacturer/distributor to fix a problem with the client's goods. That has been attempted, and has been offered, but the current offer has been rejected. Which eliminates that option and the manufacturer/distributors obligations, unless the client wants to take them up on their offer. Which he doesn't.
So, he has two options left.
Those are the facts, as they stand.
Were there integrity in this debacle here's the way I'd see it playing out:
1) A check for at least half the stock's cost would be forthcoming along with the shipping costs.
2) A new blank would be forthcoming gratis.
3) A full refund would be forthcoming including past shipping and a call tag for the current stock.
A McMillan Edge with four coats of paint ain't a new McMillan Edge anyway you slice it. The point of the Edge is minimal weight...
Despite all other issues involved here ... it seems to me that a simple fact has escaped most people's minds ... and that is ... paint DO come off ...
could the paint not be stripped off, and a new, single, proper coat be applied, as per the original scheme?
Brad, I can't disagree with you on your opinion as to what ought to happen, because it's an opinion of how you think things ought to go. Whether it's my view or not, is irrelevant/
Still, those opinions aren't options under Chuck's control.
Chuck has control of two options, as stated.
As for what Rick/McMillan decide to do, that is out of his control, and comprises a whole other list of options.
It seems to me the 1 question that needs to be asked is "What does the customer want done that would resolve the issue in his mind?" If'n he can state that then it is up to Rick and McMillan to decide if it is fair.
I think that any fiscally responsible person could see that $500 is a big investment for a stock. It would be a lifetime purchase for most, and consided excess by many. I hope chuck gets a new stock for his $500.
Yep, but Chuck has (to date) pretty well thrown out the "have Rick/McMillan fix it" option.
He can go back to that option, if he chooses, giving him the full slate of three options available.
Chuck, I agree with Brad. I'd be wanting a new stock out of this, plus all of my shipping costs. Why should you have to foot the bill for not only the basic stock itself, but for ineptitude as well?
And then what? You're to remain happy (and silent! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) in your dissatisfaction? That's doesn't work for me any more than it would work for you.......
That son of yours is going to be your best hunting partner someday. And there will come a time when you'll both be up on the mountain, and you'll recall this stock fiasco you're currently going through with a laugh and a smile. It won't matter anymore.........
AD
allen;
Good points.
Chuck;
What do you want now? A simple, short, answer to that question will go a long way to figuring out where to go from here.
As for what Rick/McMillan decide to do, that is out of his control, and comprises a whole other list of options.
VA, absolutely agree.
Will point out however, knowing Chuck, the point of this thread was never to "piss and moan"... he's a VERY patient guy and this was a last resort. I'd hope, were there any integrity is this debacle, a REAL resolution (like those I listed) will be forthcoming as you obviously agree.
Yep; which is kinda what I'm trying to help get at, without all the flak associated from within this thread.
John T,
I've the luxury of being steeped in real knowledge and that of course may skew my perspective.
It is a no lose scenario.
Poke it in the gratis Mail,await the gratis Rebuild and cash the gratis Refund(I did offer the 41 Celine's).
Or piss,pout,bitch and moan.
Decisions,decisions..........................
Brad
Did he ask McMillian or Rick for any of those before he posted?
Brad,
How come I can picture you standing in one of our torrential downpours,with your mouth wide open and drowning on your feet?
Things are only as tough as you make them.......................
I'm curious.
Couldja discern a "new" stock,from the one in the picture,after a paint job and a new pad?....................
I have to go with Chuck on this one.
I say Rick and McMillian have some options.
They still have the specs to the rifle ordered and can remake the stock and ship to Chuck along with the lost postage he is out. They then can offer for him to keep the damaged stock or ask that he used the postage paid package to ship back to them.
Based on what I am seeing, Chuck is pretty much feed up with empty offers. This thread has taken a life of its own and gone on for two days. During that time frame, Rick and McMillian have had numerous opportunities to announce that a rebate of the lost shipping or a new stock is in process and commit to a time line to meet the customer�s expectations. I am not familiar with all the names, but do not see offer from the supplier or manufacturer.
Chuck, I have to say I would be as tight as you are, but at this point, what is there to loose. You have the board�s attention. The stock is not want you want. Any other stock will take several months to obtain. Give them a last shot. We understand that you will not be happy with the experience and will never use either party again, but let them try to make you happy with the product.
Start by outlining, in writing, you expectations of the product. I see it as follows:
ďż˝ Prompt and Accurate Turn Around
ďż˝ Provide the LOP that was ordered
ďż˝ Clean and proper paint and finish
ďż˝ Correctly installed butt pad and swivels
ďż˝ Detailed time line from vendor that is both reasonable and will be met. If it cannot be met, have the courtesy to at least let the buyer know that there will be a delay and why.
ďż˝ Accountability to include verification the stock was received, complete review of written expectations and direct number to the individual that will take responsibility for seeing your project to completion.
BigStick, you're obviously no Einstein..."it's a form of insanity to do the same thing and expect a different result"... something that simple is obviously lost on a block head like yourself.
KYFRED;
Pre-xactly...
But, the "what to do" list of options starts with the client/consumer. What is it that he wants? That's the first question to be answered.
From there, all else becomes easy.
As an aside there Sticky, I had the stock in question in my mitts the first time... what a [bleep]-up. Resembled a Pakistani knock-off rather than any McMillan I've ever seen. Course being omniscient and omnipresent you knew all that...
Despite intimations otherwise, I'd hoped that I conveyed in my original post that I was willing to do whatever was necessray to satisfy Chuck. Anybody who equates an admitted [bleep]-up with the intent to screw Chuck is, it seems deliberately, adding gas to the fire.
Chuck, in case I haven't expressed it enough, I feel rotten about this, and I will do whatever it is in my power to fix it.
There are more than three options on the table.
I will give you a full refund, including shipping.
I will send you a replacement stock, at cost, and refund all shipping to boot.
I will fix the one you have.
I will pay to have someone else do it.
If I've missed something, let me know. Basically, name your poison.
Rick
Brad,
Lemme letcha' in,on a little secret.
I've got a McMillan stock at the house,I've a lil' familiarity there................................
That response is as good and reasonable as it gets........
AD
Yep;
Customer/client/Chuck needs to pick an option.
That'd about do it.
Starts with and ends with him. His choice; Rick's publicly stated that he'd do whatever Chuck wants on this one, so all he needs to do is choose.
Amazin',they seen the light.........................
Let the drinkin' begin...
Yup, and it only took five pages to get spelled out.
A guy makes his own "luck"......................
I'm just hoping this whole episode hasn't been enough to get Americans banned from hunting in Alberta now as well as B.C.
Rick that offer is all that can be expected and I would suspect it would have been the same offer extended had things been handled a little differently.
5 pages?
Naw, the same options were there, from and to both parties, on page 1.
I agree totally... five pages is all it took to make Chuck lucky.
I never expect to get something for nothing and those whom I've dealt with know it. I want what I paid you in full for on November the 8th 2005. That's really what I want. But I am not willing to send back this stock until the other one is in my hands. When I get the new stock I'll cut the old one into 6 pieces and post the pictures here.
Eigther that or a full refund and I keep the stock. Whichever is cheaper for you.
Chuck
VA, really? I didn't see it spelled out EXACTLY til page five...
I agree totally... five pages is all it took to make Chuck lucky.
This was spelled out on the first page by Rick (or did we forget about that?):
Chuck:
There should be not a thought on your end as to being banned from this site for airing a legit grievance.
As I stated before, you ordered through me, so the buck stops with me, no excuses, and I'll do whatever I can in my power to make it right. The blame is solely on me.
If you're not happy with the paint, I'll be glad to paint it again for you, gratis of course, and I'll cover shipping each way. The pad is your call. Tell me what you don't like about the grind, and I'll do my best to make it right.
Rick
He just re-stated it more specifically this time.
Chuck's made his choices (two of them), both of which are on Rick's list of what he'd do.
Let's back out of this and let them talk.
That'd be the point.
I've never needed a single sentence,to be "lucky".
What was the odds?!!?.......................
these kinds of threads continue to amaze ...
... on many levels.
5 pages?
Naw, the same options were there, from and to both parties, on page 1
No, they weren't.
When I get the new stock I'll cut the old one into 6 pieces and post the pictures here.
Why not send the old stock back instead of cutting it up?
You can't think like a Canuck.
They get pretty squirrely,during the Winter months...................
Let'm straighten this out; us in the peanut gallery ain't gonna help that any by stayin' in the middle.
Chuck's stated his preferences, which jive with what Rick has offered to do.
Let'm talk.
Chuck:
A] I will give you a full refund including excess shipping (every penny you've put out) right now, and you return the stock to me.
B] Or I will order you another one, send you it, plus a money order for the difference between every single penny you've put out and my cost on the stock. Basically, brand new stock at cost. All the work done at McMillan and drop shipped to you direct. You've paid $495, plus $50 in shipping, plus your eventual shipping to me of the old stock. You'd get a new EDGE and a check.
You keep the stock you have now until the second is ready.
In either case, I need the first stock returned to me in one piece. I don't consider it junk.
Rick
So you want me to buy another stock from you.
I don't think so.......................
Chuck,
Perhaps emotions are still a little high and that is affecting the way you are reading Rick's offer.
Rick, please correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I think is being offered.
Chuck,
Rick is offering to order you a brand new stock, and is not asking for a second payment.
You get to keep and use the current stock until the new one arrives.
Rick will reimburse your shipping charges, and send you a partial refund of your initial investment, effectively reducing your total cost of the stock.
When the new stock arrives, and meets your expectations, you send the old stock back to him.
I don't see where you are being asked to send any more money to anyone.
This seems like a fair offer to me. You don't have to wait to use your rifle, and yet still end up with a new stock.
All the risk here is on Rick, if you choose to accept this offer.
Here's your sign......................
Chuck,
CAS spelled it out.
Rick's offering a brand-new stock to you, at his costs. Which means that you get credit for everything you've paid up to now, you get the brand new stock, AND you get a check for the difference between what you've already paid and what Rick's cost on the new stock happens to be (I'd suspect a copy of the invoice will be with the check). Oh, and you get it with no shipping costs to you, nor on the old stock coming back to Rick.
Or, you get all your money expended thus far back, plus a shipping tag (on Rick's nickel) for the old stock.
Either way, you are out zero additional money.
CAS:
Of course that's what I'm offering.
Chuck:
I'm not asking you to buy a second stock.
I'm offering to
A] give you a full and complete refund right now of all of your out of pocket expenses and you return the stock, or
B] to replace the one you have with a brand new one and cut YOU a check for the difference between my cost and your total out of pocket expense.
In either case, I just need the old stock back.
You can have all your money back, or a brand new stock and a check.
Rick
Can't see the plight...........
must be the language barrier
Chill;
'Tis been offered, and explained. 'Tis Chuck's call. Let him make it. We ain't helpin' with non-clarifying comments.
Sorry, I thought you were asking me to front your cost for a new stock and send you the old one.
Plan B it is.
Thanks.
Dude, for 131 posts, you sure know it all.
Good call.
I suspect y'all will keep us posted on the new stock, how that transaction goes down, and what fleshes out in the end.
Hard to see things as clearly as necessary sometimes when you're in the middle (bt/dt).
I suspect that this one comes out well in the end.
Great. Lets put this one to bed. PLEASE.
YAY!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Like watching a Special Olympics NASCAR Event.
Holy [bleep]!..........................
Stick ...
I think I enjoyed this thread almost as much as the "Super Awesome Sniper Rifle Package" deal on that other board .... How about you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
chuck glad you got it worked out...........Blake
Now what are you going to do with those extry 41 Celine's? Extra cheese pie with moose toppings?
I'm just hoping your "YAY!" was commensurate with the way Special Ed would deliver the line on Crank Yankers.
I'm crying,here!!!..........................
doesn't take much knowledge to read and comprehend
you got it ... too bad there's no retarded emoticon thingy ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
I'm having a difficult time eating my lunch right now here in the office, and people are staring at me wondering WTF I could possibly be laughing so hard about ...
they wouldn't believe me, or even begin to understand if I tried to explain this one to them ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Buy a gallon of milk and a gallon of gas.......................(grin)
I'm firing up my printer.....................
now THAT was funny, stick. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
'course, if you follow nascar, then you know it's silly season.
must be the same around here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
so this one made the archives, huh?
Perhaps you could print an extry copy out and send it to Doc, to use with his popsicle sticks in case (on the way off chance) this thing doesn't end up right, and Chuck decides to order an MPI ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
hallelujah, it's over, i hope.
i also hope the new stock is dandy.
Damn....guess I'm out a fire sale.
Thanks Rick!
TFF, Stick rare form, man, rare form
Words fail me but this photo will do nicely....
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/DBBill/314454.jpg)
Those Celine's don't go as far as they used to.
Chuck:
Plan B it is.
Okay, we're starting from scratch. You have a CDI EDGE coming. You can have anything you want. If you want to make any spec changes from the first order, it's no sweat. Stock pattern, bottom metal inlet, color ... whatever.
So, please provide the following details at your convenience, and I will send the order to McM immediately:
EDGE Pattern (McM will make any of their hunting patterns with EDGE):
Right- or Left-handed stock?:
Rifle Manuf. and Model:
Rifle Caliber (action length):
Right- or Left-handed action?:
Bottom metal:
Barrel channel:
Recoil Pad type and size:
Finished length of pull:
Finished color:
Select Sling Studs: SS or Blue?
Notes:
Rick
EDGE Pattern (McM will make any of their hunting patterns with EDGE): Model 70 compact with edge technology
Right- or Left-handed stock?: Left handed
Rifle Manuf. and Model:Model 70
Rifle Caliber (action length):30-06
Right- or Left-handed action?: Left Handed
Bottom metal:Williams 1pc
Barrel channel:Winchester factory featherweight contour
Recoil Pad type and size: 1" decelerator
Finished length of pull: 13.5" LOP
Finished color: McMillan's Olive Green
Select Sling Studs: SS or Blue? SS
Notes:Exactly the same as last time.
FWIW, how about this:
Since the specs are clear and public, what about having Rick post up pics of the new stock, and with a tape on it for measurements where appropriate, when it's done and ready to go? Add into that verification (but please, no tracking number publicly) as to when and how shipped.
On Chuck's end, acknowledgement here of receipt of the check and of the stock as pictured, and pics of the new stock with the action, etc. on-board, as well as the same info up on the shipping back of the first stock.
The pre-shipment pics should give ample time for comment (hopefully just from Chuck... though I doubt that'll be possible), and provide evidence should something happen in shipping of the state of the stock as it left Rick's possession.
The post-shipment pictures can verify receipt and acceptance on Chuck's end.
Fair enough?
how about we let it go..........Blake
i feel like i'm watching the birth of another man's baby ...
i do not want to watch, but i cannot help it.
That offer has been standing for a while.... seems not to be many/any takers?
It ought to be left for a good while 'til the new stock is ready to go, and as the dirty laundry got aired this much in the first place, the resolution ought to at least make as much of a public appearance.
That way, anyone interested has their fill and their questions put to bed.
how about we let it go..........Blake
+1,000,000,000,000,000.00 ... if not more ...
FWIW, how about this:
Since the specs are clear and public, what about having Rick post up pics of the new stock, and with a tape on it for measurements where appropriate, when it's done and ready to go? Add into that verification (but please, no tracking number publicly) as to when and how shipped.
On Chuck's end, acknowledgement here of receipt of the check and of the stock as pictured, and pics of the new stock with the action, etc. on-board, as well as the same info up on the shipping back of the first stock.
The pre-shipment pics should give ample time for comment (hopefully just from Chuck... though I doubt that'll be possible), and provide evidence should something happen in shipping of the state of the stock as it left Rick's possession.
The post-shipment pictures can verify receipt and acceptance on Chuck's end.
Fair enough?
Little overboard ....
how about we let it go..........Blake
'nuff said!
A simple glance by the shipper in every instance would have caught everything sent. The person that installed the pad knew he screwed up when he did it but shipped it anyhow. That's dishonest. The person that installed the stud same thing. Lop was an oversight but so simple to check it is rediculous and so was the paint job.
All I ask is a one minute inspection of the product before it gets boxed up and shipped. If that would have happened the first time, the second time, and the third time, none of this would have taken place. Due diligence. In my profession if I don't do that I'm out a job. Right now.
Chuck
VA:
I am going to order this stock from McMillan and have them ship it directly to Chuck. I will not have the stock in my possession for any pictures.
Chuck:
Please PM me the addy you'd like me to ship to. I'll call McM as soon as I receive it.
rb
In the end you got it resolved, but I think your tactics are rather telling.
You know, you could have delt with Rick in private and not posted this for the whole world to see, but you chose to drag eveyone else into it and I find it rather funny how at the end of the day Rick is the one that comes out smelling like a rose............Well done dude, the jokes is on you.........................
Poot, you're off-base and without all the facts... the only thing you're right about is Rick smelling like a rose, but that's a given.
This post (after receiving full payment in Nov) is what it took to get things "right."
Look, I dealt with Rick and McMillan privately on this issue for several months and we wound in circles and obviously nothing was accomplished. 24hrs on line and it's resolved. Hmm.
You haven't a clue what went on.
This post (after receiving full payment in Nov) is what it took to get things "right."
Did Chuck ask Rick or McMillan for a refund or replacement
[color:"red"] Before [/color] his post here?
You're drowning.................(again)
You suffer from the shorts..............(again)
Let's just say,I can stand by my McMillan track record..............(amongst others)
I'll prolly haveta clarify.
You can bullshitt the fans,but can't bullshitt the players........................
Right back at ya dude. You do it better than most.
Did Chuck ask Rick or McMillan for a refund or replacement
Before his post here?
Was I supposed to?
And genious, what would you have done after the third failed attempt to fix things.
I can only deal with this so much before things have to take a different direction.
Did Chuck ask Rick or McMillan for a refund or replacement
Before his post here?
Was I supposed to?
Ummmm.... before saying that neither of them would do anything at all to resolve the issue to your satisfaction, yeah, you were.
And genious, what would you have done after the third failed attempt to fix things.
Ask for a replacement or a refund.
"Luck" is my gig.
Want/need lessons?.....................
As an aside..."genious" is spelled genius.
Lotsa things is becoming crystalline..................
Chuck:
Your order is in.
Rick
I am definately gonna shoot a bear in the face this evening....
I'm gonna haveta take a nap and sleep off the belly laffin' cramps.
Wow!!!!!!!...........................
I don't know why, but a song keeps popping into my head. I think it goes something like" Everybody was Kung Foo fighting" . Steve
This is the most entertaining post I ever ever read.....kinda like a soap........there is no concievable end to it. Tune in tomorrow for the continuing saga.
"Those cats were quick as Lightnin'".
Do I lose points for singing?..................
It's starting to rival the Mall Ninja.
Dat's scary......................
Hell, this one is starting to rival the "range fees" thread....
And that is scary....
Poot, you're off-base and without all the facts... the only thing you're right about is Rick smelling like a rose, but that's a given.
This post (after receiving full payment in Nov) is what it took to get things "right."
Brad, I don't need any facts. Bottom line is this never should have been posted on a public forum, period!!! And I don't buy the argument that this never would been resolved unless this course of action was followed. These lame smear campaign tactics are total bush league in my book. Chuck, I have no beef with you and I understand your frustration, but I think going public with this does zero good for all parties involved. At the end of the day you both have a bitter taste in your mouth and the whole world got to watch how it unfolded. What the hell does that solve??
Take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think a little diplomacy on your part would have gotten you to the same place with Rick and you could have done it without selling out the stadium.
I bought a custom gun from a very well known custom rifle builder and I had huge problems with the thing not firing consistently. As a matter of fact I lost a chance at two red stag because the gun did not fire. Was I pissed, you bet your ass. But, I took the high road and and never lost my cool with the guy. I sent it back to him multiple times and I paid the shipping and he couldn't figure out the problem. Finally, I took it to another gunsmith who solved the problem and the guy that built the gun ended up paying for the repairs. Why, because I was reasonable to work with and I was never a ragging ahole during the whole process. To this day, I have a great relationship with that gun-builder. Sometimes this crap just happens, however you lose your cool once and the whole relationship is different and now you are advisories. Now the process just got a whole bunch more difficult.
Bottom line is Rick is a very reasonable person and I find it hard to believe that he would not have offered the same thing had this remained private.
So, you are correct, I don't know all the facts, but airing it out for the world to see ain't the correct way to do it in my book
Chuck
I am glad that it was resolved this way. It's really the only proper way to resolve an issue such as this, and anyone that has had to deal with customer satisfaction woudl have realized that the situation had gone too far to be simply "shipped back and fixed."
Too bad there are some idiots that seem to think they know every facet of every situation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Man lots of reading.Glad everything is looking greener.
Stick I'm wiping coffee from my screen again.You and Steelhead alway's crack me up.
Lemme guess,Poot is often "lucky"?.........................
You Canucks are onna roll.........................
If this thread were the ONLY thread on the entire campfire forum, it would still be worth the price of admission (if there was one) to get in and read ...
Quote for the day:
"Some people's sole purpose in life is to simply serve as an example to others of how NOT to do things."
Hell, this one is starting to rival the "range fees" thread....
And that is scary....
But ain't comin' close the the DFC/CAT gold coin thread! ... I doubt any will.
avagadro;
You gotta dig that one up for me....
avagadro;
You gotta dig that one up for me....
+1 how bouta link...
You sick bastards........................(grin)
Lemme guess,Poot is often "lucky"?.........................
How the hell did you know I just went home for lunch and the little wife was there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> that Stick's a friggin mind reader.
Another thing about customer service...
I recently ordered a LEE Loadmaster to go along with Rockchucker and RCBS Pro press. I don't shoot al ot of handgun, but i thougth it woudl be conveineint to just go and load up 500 rounds of 45 ACP once a month, and not have to change shellplastes, dies etc, so I ordered an inexpensive LEE, which I felt would serve my purposes.
The press and dies and parts arrived, badly scratched, and filthy with dust. It appeared they had been packed incorrectly.
I looked at the cosmetic damage and was mildly annoyed, but bolted it to my auxillery bench anyway, since the damage would not impair function.
I had a question about set up and emailed LEE abotu it, and also mentoned the damage. They responded promptly,a nd was surprised a tthe damage I described, so I emailed them some pictures.
I also told them I was happy to keep the press, and really just wanted some help with a set up question.
They responded that they woudl liek me to ship the unit back to them, at thier expense, for immediate replacement.
They didn't argue that it was cosmetic, disn't want to 'repair' the press, just return it and we will send a duplicate, at LEE's cost for shipping.
Hell, they coudl have taken the easy way out and said "Since cosmetic damage doens't seem to bother you, just keep it, and we will send you a coupon for $20"
Although I don't use alot of LEE products, that is darn good service. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Laffin' here.........................
A sense of humor is paramount in maintaing (and improving) one's "luck factor" ...
You Canucks are onna roll.........................
Crawford got fired, they didn't make the playoffs, they ran out of CC, got sick of kicking the dog so they focued their aggression on some poor soul from the campfire...................perfectly logical
Keyboard Karate....gotta love it............
Btw, couldn't tell if you were off-key or not
Laffin' here.........................
panting here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
tff...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I am definately gonna shoot a bear in the face this evening....
Don't forget the spray lube.......
I am definately gonna shoot a bear in the face this evening....
I'm crying here.........
Are you sure you haven't hung out with my demented crew in the past?
I swear that I could get all the entertainment I need just by reading your quips <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
This whole thing is interesting, but not for the reasons some might expect. IMHO, I think McMillan's have slipped in quality over the last few years. I've ordered some stocks from them for rifles I've built for customers and every one needed tweaking with something to get them to fit, even though the action, barrel, bottom metal et al., was specified to a 'T' on the order form. On one, I had to spend over an hour with a dremel and cutting head to get the bottom metal to fit into the stock..
When you pay that kind of money for a stock, the damn thing better fit. I have heard nothing but raves for these things over the years but I have to tell ya, I haven't been impressed to date..
But then, I'm a wood man myself......
tff...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Ever notice that when you go home for a nooner they don't want you to mess up their hair???? Whats up with that......................... Who's gonna notice.........my five year old?
I can hear him saying, "Hey look, mom looks kind of flushed and her hair is messed up................Did the pool man come over again" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
The bummer is we don't have pool..................................
I would say that has more to do with the actions not being the same tolorances............Blake
I leave home for three days and this breaks out. Who's been watching the store?
See? And who told you that you could leave anyway?
avagadro;
You gotta dig that one up for me....
Thread ran from 7/30 to 9/1 ...... 8498 views and 1226 replies .... and all that from about 2500-3000 members!!! Unlike the 11,000 + now.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...page=289#179798BTW .... I brought BTT in the free classifieds <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Seen it, started reading, have to stop... laughin' too hard....
Now you hurt my feelings <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> and made my cry.
Rick,
I am beginning to wonder about the stock I ordered in December? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I am confident from my deals with you in the past that you are among the A team of guys to deal with.
But I wonder what is happening over at McMillan, has the immigration authorities made a sweep through their labor pool or something similar causing disruption?
I think after reading about the path Chuck's stock has been on that I am going to choose patience with this one because it is for a rifle that I was not planning to take on my November trip anyway. But I still want it to look good.
Last McMillan order to hit these parts,was about 3wks ago and included 5 examples. 2 were mine,2 'humpers and 1 for The Pimp.
Am thinking the Gap Camo Sillwet T-hole for my 54 Anschutz was the most complicated inlet and it also boasted a 3-way butt and flushcups. Fact is,I included a detailed traced blueprint of the TG footprint,to help Kelly and crew out. It was/is flawless and my Classic in the same scheme,it's equal.
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'Humpers brace of A5's were dead nuts on(GAP Camo and Gap Camo swirl). The Pimp's swirly Classic,was also preefect.
The tally has gotta be over 100 by now and noone has been less than thrilled yet.
The trend I see,is that stocks is easy: McMillan or bust........................
'Dog,
My order date was 12/23/05..........................
Should add,I know Kelly and crew have been slammed with orders on various levels and that run times have lengthened.
Don't sweat it.......................
So how'd that other long thread turn out? Anybody get kilt, whupped on, or go broke? The players still around?
They went seperate ways.
CAT threw in the towel much later and I miss his angle on things.
The man was veddy veddy astute.....................
I'm curious to know if you have ever recieve a stock from McMillan with an unusable pad or wrong LOP?
'Dog:
Here she is, awaiting paint.
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EDGE Winchester Classic inletted for RH M70 Winchester LA, factory 1-piece floorplate, #5 Douglas barrel channel, Decelerator at 13.25, to be painted charcoal gray with black webbing, blued studs.
She was ordered 12/22 and invoiced by McMillan 4/27, then shipped to me.
It will be painted Friday, and should be in your hands by the end of next week.
Should I post an after pic?
Rick
avagadro;
You gotta dig that one up for me....
Thread ran from 7/30 to 9/1 ...... 8498 views and 1226 replies .... and all that from about 2500-3000 members!!! Unlike the 11,000 + now.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...page=289#179798BTW .... I brought BTT in the free classifieds <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Oh, Jeez <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />. I just had to look...and out of all the pages on that thread, I clicked on page 20.....just to find the nude dude named Moosie with a cooking pan over his noodle......
BTW- glad to see everything worked out....
HoundGirl
This is the most entertaining post I ever ever read.....kinda like a soap........there is no concievable end to it. Tune in tomorrow for the continuing saga.
Kinda like wiping your butt with a hula hoop.....no end to that, either. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Moosie, one hell of a character <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Hey guys,
Have you guys seen the nice pictures of dead stuff on my "Arizona and Sonora Hunts Available" post under the general hunting thread?
Some nice pics to look at.
Enrique
'Dog:
Should I post an after pic?
Rick
A pic is not needed for me, but go ahead for promoting your talents because there will be no more pics after it leaves your house as I am without a digital camera.
This is the most entertaining post I ever ever read.....kinda like a soap........there is no concievable end to it. Tune in tomorrow for the continuing saga.
Kinda like wiping your butt with a hula hoop.....no end to that, either. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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This is the funniest strand I have ever read. Not only did we wind up right back where we started with Rick making things right (was there ever any doubt?) but we got several of the funniest "stickisms" that I have ever read. I haven't laughed this much in a long time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I think I mentioned in passing,that I've never had a single issue. Should issue occur,I'd not sweat the outcome.
Dealing in known quantities,is an inherent safety net and such things soothe my senses...........................
How the hell did I miss this?
Not sure who I feel more sorry for; Chuck for the run-around with the stock and a possible need for medication; Rick for taking cyber jabs; or H.G.'s significant other because she's apparently never taken a stroll down the feminine hygiene isle..... : <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
What's the old saying about there's two things that smell like fish, and one's fish... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
So you're barking purely as a fan (your term), and don't have the slightest clue as to dealing with these guys' give a crap attitude? Correct? The way you've taken over the thread, I assumed you an expert in such matters.
Is there something you don't know everything about, or am I missing something?
A legend in your own mind and in the other six drunken minds in Paradise Alaska.
Getting screwed over a stock.....painful. Listening to you spout nonesense.......priceless.
Go back to shooting milk jugs.
Sweet...didn't reckon you soooooooo emotional. BONUS Round!
Have I bought a McMillan stock,that I've ordered? Yes.
From Kelly and crew direct? Yes.
From Rick Bin? Yes.
From John baier? Yes.
from Private parties? Yes.
How many? 50-ish.
Have I suffered any malady,within those transactions? Never.
I don't know much about the Canadian Special Olympics,but with your reading comprehension,astute prowess,people skills,wrong-handedness and Drama Queen antics,reckon you'd rate a try out as a minimum. Gotta be an opening for a babbling idiot,beneath the Bacon Flag's crew of Special individuals.
I admit,I've seen me go and rate the inside scoop there. Legend? Mebbe not quite,but I reckon there's songs,a book and mebbe a Movie warranted.
The first time I don't make sense,you just shout,I'll leadja to water.
Hell,I can even put water in the milk jugs.........................
I've had two with the wrong LOP. I threw them a curve ball both times, 13-1/4". Guess some of those Mexican McMillans can't read English.
This should get things rolling again
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Sweet...didn't reckon you soooooooo emotional. BONUS Round!
Have I bought a McMillan stock,that I've ordered? Yes.
From Kelly and crew direct? Yes.
From Rick Bin? Yes.
From John baier? Yes.
from Private parties? Yes.
How many? 50-ish.
Have I suffered any malady,within those transactions? Never.
I don't know much about the Canadian Special Olympics,but with your reading comprehension,astute prowess,people skills,wrong-handedness and Drama Queen antics,reckon you'd rate a try out as a minimum. Gotta be an opening for a babbling idiot,beneath the Bacon Flag's crew of Special individuals.
I admit,I've seen me go and rate the inside scoop there. Legend? Mebbe not quite,but I reckon there's songs,a book and mebbe a Movie warranted.
The first time I don't make sense,you just shout,I'll leadja to water.
Hell,I can even put water in the milk jugs.........................
I can sense Chuck's frustrations, been there with McMillan myself. As for your 50ish flawless stocks, I find that hard to believe Stick. C'mon now!
I know a certain 'smith who specifically orders McMillans for his customers without inletting, studs, and pads. Guess why?
I've sent plenty of McMillans back for screwups, I would wager they could not get it right on about 40% of the stock orders I've placed. Guess I'm an idjut at making luck................
MtnHtr
LOL....boy, I sure gotta take some hard hits from you boyz.....sometimes I wonder what makes me such a glutten for punishment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.....but there is no dismissing the fun to be had on this site....even off the smart azzes, and at my expense....lol...a sense of humor is paramount on this site....
BTW, if my coochie needed any special attention/hygiene, I'd tend to her. Guess I am just lucky that way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />...
Now, GREATWaputi, hush....pass the popcorn and "let the men talk" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />....things just got a tad more interesting.....
HoundGirl
BX
That's Uuuuggglyyyy!!
mike
Swing by the house and find flaws. Noone I,work,shoot,Hunt,fish with,has ever had issue.
I know lotsa 'Smiths who do the complete opposite,guess why?
Cain't know why your batting average is so low,must be a sucker for stuff low and outside?!!?....................(grin)
I've ordered from 12.5" to 14.25" and several 3-way adjustables........................
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr EAGLE! HEY!
Stick, that gun in the pic kicks ass! I cannot wait to get mine...long 4 months it will be. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
In all fairness I doubt if the broken stock pictured above had much to do with McMillan. Its a stock for a rifle that Celt built for me and my GUESS is that too much material was removed around the lug prior to bedding and then the bedding probably had large voids causing the weakness. I never dug into the bedding to verify it. There was little to no material removed at the surface.
BUT, the below stock had the cracks right out of the box, which I opened.
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What was your recourse,in both incidents?...................
Kick ass,is what I had in mind.
I typically keep a few extry stocks on hand,so as to be able to scratch a pending itch ASAP.
I've no qualm scoring stuff offa the 'Net Specials page either.....................
Stick ... in all seriousness ... you're saying you've NEVER had a single flaw in any of the stocks you've ordered from McMillan? Not a single scratch, wrong LOP, poor inletting or wrong inletting, crack(s), wrong studs (either wrong number, wrong placement, poor job setting them, etc) ... nothing???
I'm not doubting you ... just trying to be absolutely sure this is what you're saying ...
I can understand if you've never had a problem getting it to 100% over time ... but I would be simply amazed (to say the least) that you've never had an issue that needed their attention (or someone else's) right out of the box the first time ...
Actually that would be 4 instances, two broken stocks and two wrong LOP's. They made it right, but like Mtn Hunter, thats high percentages, not to mention all the extra time....
I have no dog in the does McM screw up fight ....
But we have heard of 4 on this thread ... and maybe a total of 10-12-15 here on 24HCF in the nearly 4 years I've been here .... How many hundreds has Rick sold ... how many hundreds of internet specials and direct orders have members purchased directly from McM.
I'm going to have to go with the statisics here, If I ever wanted a synthetic stock, it would be McM. Good thing I perfer wood handles on my fire stix!
Seems Mtn Hunter and I have 10. I know CAS had several issues, swapped brands, but is back, WGM and of course Chuck Nelson. Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head without any research. Your 15 number is conservative.
mine is at McM right now being "corrected" ... but this is it's first trip back ... we'll see how it goes ...
LOL....boy, I sure gotta take some hard hits from you boyz.....sometimes I wonder what makes me such a glutten for punishment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.....but there is no dismissing the fun to be had on this site....even off the smart azzes, and at my expense....lol...a sense of humor is paramount on this site....
BTW, if my coochie needed any special attention/hygiene, I'd tend to her. Guess I am just lucky that way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />...
Now, GREATWaputi, hush....pass the popcorn and "let the men talk" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />....things just got a tad more interesting.....
HoundGirl
I'm waiting for Al Gore to invent cyber scratch and sniff. Until then, I'll take your word for it.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Everything has arrived,as specified.
I've had color schemes that didn't align with what I had envisioned,when I initially pulled them outta the hat,but that's on me.
Now I haven't had a buncha weird stuff twisted up,only 700's shorts and longs,Sevens,600,a Sako L61R,a 54 Winchester(Hornet),a 54 Anschutz,and a S/S Winnie 70 Classic Whizzum and 10/22's. Might coulda forgot something,somewhere.
Haven't done very many weird patterns either,just Remmie Classics,Mountains,KS Mountain,Model Sevens,a Sporter,HTG's,A2's,A3,A5's,Anschutz Sillywet,Anschutz Sillywet T-hole,Winchester Classic,Winchester G&H and a BR. Might coulda forgot something,somewhere.
Anymore,I go Decelerator on everything,love gelcoat and wouldn't touch paint(anybody's paint). Have done a few Fibergrains and like the theory better than the application.
Never got too weird on studs and typically drive a brace of Uncle Mike's in the usual locations,or flushcups in same.
I'm familiar with barrel contours and shank dimensioning and can relate same with accuracy. If in doubt,I bump the inlet and bed the difference. That can only happen when I have neither the stock or barreled action,in hand,indicative of a rush on my end and gunning from the hip.
Have largely explored the plethora of available fill weights and am thinking my lightest is a KS Mountain L/A on my 25-06AI that goes 26oz with paint,pad,studs and bedding. The heaviest a solid filled A5 upon a 308,that I never weighed.
Have only dabbled in contours from sub #1 to a straight 1.350" bull.
I'm amazed that others can't relay their wishes,to the horse's mouth,I have never had a glitch........................
Yeah, and hopefully he'll invent a internet Peter Meter....so as to shed some light on the little dicks that talk big....until then, I'll take YOUR word for it GREATwaputi... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />!
HoundGirl
Your 15 number is conservative.
Perhaps so ... but not significantly enough to alter my perception of the company. Just when McM DOES screw up, it gets a lotta press here. If at all possible (and I'm sure it isn't, because it would 100% participation from all members ... and that ain't happening). A poll of ALL McM users here on the 'fire and how many were disatisfied with the inital stock they received. I'm betting well less than 5% .... how many problems were resolved after the first trip back .... I bet the number drops by MORE than an order of magnitude!
Seriously, think of all the different McM stocks we have seen here, and how many gripes? but it only takes one bitch to screw-up 1000 good jobs!
Stick ... I'd say you've been plain lucky ... not "making your own luck" in this regard ... I had my order placed very specifically, and correctly ... and when I talked with Lynn about it, she pulled up the order and verified that I had told her a 1.5" shank, not a 1" shank (which is what the inletting was done for) ... "Luckily" for me the inletting was too "short", and could easily be bumped forward to accommodate the bbl ... but had it been reversed, they would be making a new stock ...
Now, I didn't screw up in placing the order ... and McMillan verified that it was their mistake ... so "a man makes his own luck" doesn't much apply here ... McMillan isn't beyond mistakes ... and I'm not bent because of that ... I simply sent the stock back for corrections ... it's just funny that you've got 50+ w/out a single issue, and my first is back there for repairs ... when both of us have ordered properly ...
we might make our own luck most of the time ... but there are times when schitt happens ... You seem to be WAY ahead of the game with regards to your McMillan stocks ... and I sincerely hope your "luck" continues with them ...
but in the end, I still wouldn't pick another brand over McM ...
Ooops...forgot a coupla AWR's......................
Ouch.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
I placed an order for a Hunter's Edge about 3 weeks ago. This will be the first time I've ordered one this finished. Its ordered as:
Rem 700 S/A
R/H
13.4" LOP
CDI (inletting)
#2 Lilja (1.125" shank)
Studs
Brown paint
ADL format
We'll see how she measures up when the lil brown truck shows and I'll bring this thread back up. Believe me, if it ain't right, I'll post a few pics on what I consider flaws. And we'll have a nice lil bitch and moan 'fest! (grin)
Now if she's perfect, I'll ship a box of X bullits to short schitt up North! Fair enough?
In the past, I've seen all kinds of goofs. Incorrect barrel channel inletting, stock halfs mated up crooked, incorrect bolt notches, poor tang inletting, huge air voids (poured Cieba Geige down the hatch) etc.
MtnHtr
What I said was I had 50-ish and pards were good for that many more,so it's 100-ish.
Nobody has bitched or uttered a word contrary. A coupla boys tenbd top order a barrel inlet a contour generous,so as to bed the shank and have float built-in. I do that too,on some stuff,but stay closer toi tolerance to stuff I'm gonna FL bed,for weight savings.
I've faith in my ability to order concisely,for obvious reasons.
'Course the boys make me order for them too,as a matter of course and my preference is to get Lynn on the horn.
'Humper and I are procrastinating extries,mebbe one of 'em will be scratched?!!?..................
It's the .284" 120TSX time of year,moly 'em,while you got 'em...................(grin)
Is the shank designator 1.125",the diameter or length?
Them things do matter...................
Order a few and find out.
Stick ...
completely off topic ... everyone in the world that normally supplies leupold sunshades is out of the post-2004 matte black 40mm 2.5" shades ... I've been trying like crazy to get one, and can't find one anywhere ... talked to Rick, and he's got one on order for me, so when they DO make more, I'll get one ...
but for now, do you have one you could sell/loan me until I get mine?
Which glass does it mate,the 30mm LR stuff?........................
So you saying I need to be more specific than 13-1/4" LOP. Should I send them a drawing? Should I specifiy that there should be no cracks in the gel coat?
It's the .284" 120TSX time of year,moly 'em,while you got 'em...................(grin)
This time of year will be long gone before the brown truck shows, plan on some 140TSX's, if McMillan don't fumble..........
Make that 1.125" length of shank.
MtnHtr
yah ... brand new MK4 M1 3.5-10x40 LR/T ... 2006 vintage ...
how many problems were resolved after the first trip back .... I bet the number drops by MORE than an order of magnitude!
I have had to send the same stock back..................well I think you know the story, and have enough people telling me what to do about it here you'd think the've all had the same experience. Dealing with it in a much better fashion apparently. Big Stick has finally become the expert on one to many things, and can't put a complete sentence togethor trying to keep his head above water.
Lets see, never had a rifle or new one that he couldn't make shoot, Never missed a target, never had a bad stock, never foud a scope that could aim like a 6X42, never cleaned a gun, never couldn't kill something stone dead on the first shot, never found a hole he couldn't catch a fish out of, never found someone he couldn't one up, never keep his flap shut, never.............
Did I miss anything?
This is the Age Of Information and it's a beautiful thing.
You can call in your order,back it via fax or email and quantify the confirmation.
Clear communication,is really a marvel......................
I just mailed them a $1300 barreled action so they can make it fit. I like to eliminate variables.
This is the Age Of Information and it's a beautiful thing.
You can call in your order,back it via fax or email and quantify the confirmation.
Clear communication,is really a marvel......................
How about comprehension? Seems that is lacking in alot of skilled labor depts these days especially down south.................make that AZ or KA!
MtnHtr
This is the Age Of Information and it's a beautiful thing.
You can call in your order,back it via fax or email and quantify the confirmation.
Clear communication,is really a marvel......................
You damn right!!! Amazing how they can still screw it up. Per the tag, LOP is 13".
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Order a few and find out.
How terse .... I think I've stated my preference already. But I'm one to believe with my own peepers, and I've probably seen 100 satisfied customers with McM to each gripe. Don't need to spend $500 a pop for something I don't care for, but my eyes don't lie ... unless all those who were thrilled with their McM's are bearing false witness to us!
I have had to send the same stock back..................well I think you know the story,
Yeah, I vaguely recall reading about it somewhere <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />, and I'm sorry you had to go thru it. I feel bad for all that fork out serious quid and their goodies aren't what they asked for! I had the a similar issure with a Banser stock I ordered ... messed with it and sold it at a LARGE loss ... lesson learned.
Sweet!...it's gotta be Chuck's time of the month.
May I suggest some Black Licorice Massengill,to sweeten your sour puss?
English has yet to be an obstacle for me. I can cypher "to" from too and savvy which,witch is which. "Togethor" might could be a Canuckian Mythological Hero,but I reckon it another Special Olympics meritorious citation entry.
Had a 70XTR FW 223,that couldn't/wouldn't shoot. It's an oft recounted USRAC lesson.
Have had lotsa bad stocks,but not by McMillan. (there's a trend there.)
I remain sweet on the 6x42 and greedily grab 'em if non-A/O.
Have cleaned lotsa guns,but have learned the fruitless nature of cleaning for fending boredom.
Gotta admit,my first poke kill ratio is wayyyyyyy up there,unless I grab hold of a 338-378 Wby Accumark and try a 100yd poke through it's Swaro.(grin)
But...redemption is sweet and the 6x42 atop the 338Ultra(McMillan stock and all),done granted the warm/fuzzy again. Whatta 'bout them X bullets?!!?
Man,I AM good with a fish pole,but have noticed you cain't catch 'em,if they ain't there. Timing is everything and I've faith in my watch.
One-upping a Canuck,is akin to sneaking up on a glass of water. Everybody can do it.
Talking in the firsthand,troubles me none.
You forgot,I'm pretty.......................
I just mailed them a $1300 barreled action so they can make it fit. I like to eliminate variables.
That is exactly what I would probably do also.
Just scoured my 30mm boxes,looking for extries and all I can drum up is extry M3 cams......................
You forgot,I'm pretty.......................
More like unsober....................
MtnHtr
No,definately pretty.
Unsomber,most definately..................
I can't quite get why the 30mm vs. 1" thing matters, as all the Leupy 40mm non-a/o objectives are same-same ... but I do appreciate you taking a look-see for me ... guess I'm 'doomed' to wait patiently for the prize ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
unless of course, anyone else reading this has a "spare" 2.5" matte 40mm leupy sunshade that will fit the 2004 and newer models ...
ps. should I feel bad about taking this thread in a direction other than crying like a biatch about not having what I want ??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Lemme get this.
Your codeword for 13.25" is 13"? So you used The Age Of Information to quantify that,but your tape reveals 13.5"?
So after the spy stuff,you was [bleep] outta a 1/4"?........................
I KNEW I didn't have a matte shade on a 1" tube,so wanted to make sure of whatcha requested.
Had never yanked a shade offa fixed Mk4,to ride on a 1 incher,so wasn't sure if they crossreferenced.....................
holy schitt ... we found something that Big Stick DIDN'T know ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I am sure chuck is happy now !!!! ............................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
There's lotsa stuff I don't know.
I just don't Post in their regard........................
your reply, while appreciated ... was not necessary ......
on another note ... my father, a very wise man ... taught me at a very young age that one of the biggest keys to being 'smart' is not knowing what you know ... but realizing what you DON'T know ...
you almost sound like you mighta talked with him before ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Commenting upon BT/DT,troubles me none,I've a few T-shirts. If I speculate,that's mentioned outta the gate.
Being oblivious,never plagued me....................
One-upping a Canuck,is akin to sneaking up on a glass of water. Everybody can do it.
Yeah.... well I'm still taller <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Never owned a McMillan stock before... likely won't anytime soon as I'm hip on Wildcat Composites out of Alberta.
However, that is beside the point. I've had a number of successful dealings with Rick Bin, and put a number of pards onto him as well.
We're batting 100 in the happy customer dept., and he has literally bent over backwards to meet a few of our "Canuck" requests (seeing as we're all seemingly a bunch of dumb chits).
Rick Bin gets my business every chance I get... and that won't change.
Sorry Chuck had a bad experience.... but Rick Bin is far from dishonourable!
Hope all works out
280_ACKLEY
We're batting 100 in the happy customer dept
Batting 100 ain't so good <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Chris
Being taller than me,is akin to sneaking up on a glass of water.(grin)
It has been my observation that Rick has always gone above and beyond,in all matters.
They call that a trend,where I'm from....................
"100" is a better percentage,than an average................
I'd take 100% in a heartbeat......but batting "100" in baseball won't get you very far
No bear tonight, but thinking about this post nearly caused me to throw a 180 grains of friendliness into my temporal lobe...........
"100" is a better percentage,than an average................
Oops <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Tough crowd <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Lemme get this.
Your codeword for 13.25" is 13"? So you used The Age Of Information to quantify that,but your tape reveals 13.5"?
So after the spy stuff,you was [bleep] outta a 1/4"?........................
Calm down there Stick. I said there were two screw ups on the LOP. This is NOT the one that should have been 13-1/4". In THIS case I ordered 13", McMillan noted 13", but cut it 13-1/2". I was "[bleep]" a 1/2" on this one, yet they had the correct LOP noted.
I didn't take pictures of the 13-1/4" debacle which they had correctly noted as well.
BX,
The tag indicates as light as possible. How much did that one weigh? Is it a 700 LA, Rem Classic? Please advise. TIA
VERY good question, and another thing that gripes my ass about McMillan. Light as possible turned out to be 35 oz.
All this being said, I've had far less luck with other stock makers......
Was just trying to clarify,the designators,with what was realized.
Will try to weigh the GAP Camo Classic. It was specified to be inletted for HS DBM,#3 Douglas,CDI with Decelerator at 13.5",2 S/S studs in their usual location and housing Weatherby fill.
Now where is Momma's new fancy-dancy scales?!!?...................
Really, the bottom line remains. These guys don't care about me, you, or anyone else. They have more important things to worry about. They'll say what they can to apease you in the moment, and nothing more.
McMillan makes an awsome stock, and I want to believe they're good people, but I'm sour and will be for a while.
Chuck
Found the scale,atop the fridge.
Above handle goes 2lbs 2.7oz and I'd say that's typical for perameters cited.........................
Really, the bottom line remains. These guys don't care about me, you, or anyone else.
Damn dude.... you want some cheese with that whine?
Seriously, [bleep] happens, it's getting straight, and no one anywhere at anytime guarantees any of us that everything we ever want will always be "perfect". It's called life. Mix in a little business with that, and well.... [bleep] happens.
McMillan makes an awsome stock, and I want to believe they're good people, but I'm sour and will be for a while.
Well, at least we can be certain of the last part of that. The former is a personal opinion - though held by many.
if you take this Midol I think you won't bitch quite so much!
Had already mocked the rifle up,LOP was where it was designated,fit and finish commensurate with all the others and inletting was dead nuts on.
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Here's the scale shot.
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Notice all the cracks and the shoddy bolt cut-out.
Give or take.........................(grin)
VA,
What is your bitch with Chuck N.? If you were in the same boat, you would be feeling the same way.
Bottom line is Chuck got jacked around, he is frustrated and tired of being put off.
If he had never posted this thread, the outcome would have been different.........
MtnHtr
Stocks are easy...McMillan or bust....................
Yep,and X bullets don't shoot,700's Suck,Leupies don't track,Re-15 is temp sensitive,kissing lands will kill you,Loomis is over rated,a 200lb pup is a big pooch and it takes a big fish to [bleep] a whale.
Can only imagine the length of a doom and gloomers day.....................
In fairness,I've never drove an EDGE,solely because I only do gelcoat.............................
I just want to know If McMillian will ship one to me before I pay for it. BWAHHAHHAHHAAAAA <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I've never been charged,until actual delivery,but have never inspected first and paid later.......................
Maybe I could get one with an action and a stock and pay later ????
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...e=1&fpart=1
I'll let the fire dia down a little and then pour gas on it again. Pics do tell a thousand words <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
On secound thought, I'm finished with the bashing. They have made it right every time, I just wished it were less often. Now we have to pay more, but if QC improves, thats a good thing....
Oh my golly gee. After going back and reading that strand I see the same two whinning, snivelies that didn't get their way on another sale. Betwen Chuck Nelson and MtnHntr we might need to take up a collection to send them an extra large bottle of midol for their monthlies. Oh the friggen Drama!
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Watch it there, Peepsqueak! You already have enough foes on here, what happen to your "Ignore" feature? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
MtnHtr
Really, the bottom line remains. These guys don't care about me, you, or anyone else. They have more important things to worry about. They'll say what they can to apease you in the moment, and nothing more.
McMillan makes an awsome stock, and I want to believe they're good people, but I'm sour and will be for a while.
Chuck
Come on Chuck your better than that.
Maybe it is time for a spiritual moment or something that brings you peace besides revenge.
The world is lucky you ain't one of the muslim dudes, or you would be blowing yourself up to kill a dozen others.
I sent it out to you without payment!
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Like I said,I've never had a malady occur and if it should happen,I'll not sweat things being taken care of.
Much to be said,for how a man handles his affairs.
My pride wouldn't allow me a Bitch Slappin' Catfight nor a Whine Festival,on open airwaves(or behind closed doors)...but I'm funny that way..................
Yup this one was a tuffy. Pick up phone. Call Rick. Ask for what you want. Case closed. Whew. That was difficult.
Fairly amazing alright,but whatta ride................(grin)
The funny thing about chit weasels that just like to cause grief to a guy trying to make a decent living is that they overlook the fact that there are a lot of guys out there who after seeing this will now put Rick at the top of the order from list. Pretty difficult to get better customer service than what Rick has offered.
'Stick,
I know little about McM stocks, so if you'd indulge me the following questions, I'd appreciate it.
Regarding the 2# 2.7 oz GAP Camo Classic, that is a Rem Classic pattern, yes? SA in this case? Is the Weatherby fill, their lightest fill? TIA
Rem Classic,inletted for short 700 and Wby fill is prolly closer to the light end of the spectrum,but certainly not the lightest route.
I generally get a 31oz handle,when specifying a light filled gelcoated handle,but there's some tricks there.
Wasn't sure if I was gonna flute the tube on this project or not,so bumped fill weight a smidge.................
just got a McSwirley in the mountain rifle pattern, Rem 600, ADL and 1" Decel Pad was right at 33oz if that info helps.
Whispering in your ear..."always say it's a 223"...................(grin)
Rick, if you don't mind I would appreciate it if you closed this thread. I'm choked and will be for a bit. I'm sniping and getting sniped at so I snipe some more. Lets get this thing ended. You can even move it to some political forum if you like, give it it's own forum, leave it, red flag it whatever. But pls close it.
Chuck
Too funny.
Bitch boy wanted to piss and moan and has just now figured what a dickhead he is.
Life is a series of lessons,sometimes the curve is steep...................
The funny thing about chit weasels that just like to cause grief to a guy trying to make a decent living is that they overlook the fact that there are a lot of guys out there who after seeing this will now put Rick at the top of the order from list. Pretty difficult to get better customer service than what Rick has offered.
Yea, I guess CAS, BXRoads, Chuck N., myself and others are "chitweasels" for airing a grief on here.
This used to to be a great forum. Unfortunately ticks like Stetson have become all too common, my take is he received one too many dirt snacks in his youth.......
MtnHtr
Give me a call this weekend Larry. 403-627-5853. I'll happily run you through the story. I'd suprise ya.
Chuck
You PM me,if your new stock don't arrive.....................
You DSMFers are simply wrapped too tight.
Get outta the house,go pop some primers or rip some lips.
I cain't fathom my tit being twisted,over what some azzhole did or didn't type.
Perspective man,perspective...........................
Brad,
You're drowning(again).
Someone is plum flattered,to think they rate my call.......................
Larry, you're suffering from little man's disease (again).
Rick, if you don't mind I would appreciate it if you closed this thread. I'm choked and will be for a bit. I'm sniping and getting sniped at so I snipe some more. Lets get this thing ended. You can even move it to some political forum if you like, give it it's own forum, leave it, red flag it whatever. But pls close it.
Chuck
Good call Chuck. Not to be a dick, but you did fire the first shot and opted to go public with this in the first place. Never a good move in my opinon, but in the end of the day you got your stock sorted out, but at what cost????? I think it is best to keep dirty laundry in the hamper where it belongs, piss stained sheets hanging from the balcony is never a pretty sight. As can be evidenced by the fact that we are at 16 pages and counting...............................
It'd take more than LMD to afflict my sense of judgement.....................
The 1" Decelerator's rounded radius is a benefit in rapid aquisition,for me.
It's not a Recoil Thing,it's a Quickaloo Thing.
The "223" designator keeps the fill light....................
The guy in this picture had a McM under his 30-378 tube. Did a good wack job on this coues deer.
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just changing the tone a bit for you guys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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When you change the channel like that,you gotta show the stock.
There are rules.......................(grin)
Larry, I never said LMD/NA was the ONLY affliction diminishing your judgement. Megolamania comes to mind right off...
I don't have a picture of the stock. All I know is that it was blackish grayish and had a thumb hole. I also know the guy loved it and was very pleased with it.
Hell whats wrong with factory stocks? As long as the gun shoots who cares if its a McM, Walmart special, or factory stock right? As long as the gun shoots.
hee hee another channel change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I've never not been a fair judge of character and prowess.....................
I just spoke with McMillan again ... they have my stock, and it's A-OK ... they are running A5 inletting as I type, and my stock is somewhere in line ... ALL the important info on my stock is in the computer, and I had it verified for accuracy ... They have my Williams floorplate, and are re-inletting for that as well when they re-run my stock ...
ESTIMATED time of delivery about 2 weeks ...
again, longer than I wanted to wait ... but I figure, what the hell ... I'm getting the best stock in the world, custom made precisely as I want ... it wouldn't feel right to air a b!tch, if there even was one .................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Oh ... and did I ever mention that Lynn is the one that offered to re-do the inletting for the Williams bottom metal for free, since they made the mistake with the original inletting?
You're a good man Enrigue. My wife is the master of changing the subject when she doesn't like where the conversation is headed............... Always a good course of action when things get heated.
This subject never should have started in the first place. Kind of like it is always better to settle out of court then to go to trial. Because at trial all of your actions are going to be scrutized by the judge, the jury and the 24 hourcampfire peanut gallary...............................
Nor me... you're transparent (again)...
"Shoots" is subjective.
Everyone houses acceptable perameters,within their noggin'.
Add 200" of rainfall to the fray,recoil management,distances beyond 30yds,balance/LOP preferences,massaged barrel contours and bottom metal tweaks and one can disassociate himself from over the counter fluff,in rapid fashion.
We are all creatures of our environment...................
Let me know when you guys are ready for the Next channel change. I have lots of dead stuff to share. I mean channels to change to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
BTW, the Suns were tired of winning so they took a break last night. Mercy always is nice when you are spanking the LA boys. Gets there heads swollen so they can humiliate them AGAIN! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
It's not like I'm dying to talk with you. You've seen fit to call me every name in the book so I'm calling you out in public. Put up or shut up. I'll even call you back to foot the phone bill. You want the truth or not?
On your best day,it'd take you 3 cups of coffee and 4 guesses,to determine if the 'burger in question was a BigMac or a Whopper,despite the Hamburger Technician Training.
You are far and away the most wishy-washy go with the flow,suck azz,ain't never done a thing phony,to wear a paper hat.
Go find yourself a shadow to bask in,lap dog...............................
I can't recall hammering on you,but you mighta thunk I have.
I don't speak French,so the conversation is moot.
Keep the rant going,this is classic form.......................
"Well" is a deep subject,for shallow minds...................
Chuck,I'm digging the fact,that you think I'm the dick,but you are seven different kinds of horned up to talk to me?!!?
I can't top that....................
LMAO, Larry, his Royal Potentate the Daily Lamo, has his dander up... God forbid any of the surfs would dare complain about one of His Majesty's objects of worship...
What a [bleep] maroon...
Time to change channels. Thanks for the Q. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
I think the Nerd in the back of this picture playing with his camera had a McM on his rifle too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Nice buck btw. Hopefully this year we will have 6 30" plus bucks in camp.
here's the channel change <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Take the hair net off,loosen the paper hat,back away from the flame-broiled smoke and look in the mirror.
Hurts...don't it........................
NICE Buck..................
Yes, nice buck! But you gotta show us the rifle too, for all we know that coulda been a roadkill photo opp <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
[bleep] guys! I tune out for a day or so and we have 17 pages of crap here. Lots of you have nothing of value to contribute.
The key thing is that Rick and Chuck came to an agreement. Period.
There's more than enough info (and BS and the kitchen sink) here for everyone to draw their own conclusions about whomever and whatever they want.
While I won't tell anyone what to do, those that keep fueling the fire aren't going to win any prizes.
Dat's funny... Loan Officer at a Mortgage Co, CommoditiesTrader and run my own Construction Co. Graduated witha 4.65 GPA outta Universty...
Beats being a knuckle dragging lumber jack with Little Man's Disease...
Only the Canucks were soliciting handouts..................
those that keep fueling the fire aren't going to win any prizes.
But they're keeping us warm with laughter <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Yup this one was a tuffy. Pick up phone. Call Rick. Ask for what you want. Case closed. Whew. That was difficult.
Wow, I reckon I missed something somewhere! I thought phone calls were made. I was even under the impression that the stock had even been sent back a time or two!
What I don't understand is how in the world did this soap opera get this far?
It seems that Rick is, and therefore I have to believe was, willing to "step up to the pump" and do what is required to make a customer happy.
It almost seems as if by having so many involved, in a hands on way, in trying to resolve the problem, it actually made it worse. That's no excuse for the chity work that was done on the stock, or the fact that some of those problems being so evident, made it out of the shop, but by having the folks at McMillan, and Rick working from opposite ends, and not knowing what the other was telling Chuck, it easily could have been a factor in this ordeal.
For those of you that claim that you could go through this ordeal, just as Chuck laid it out, (Forget it involves McMillan or Rick for a minute), and still have the attitude of "Oh well, chit happens", and would still be willing to continue contacting this company, being friendly, and willing to give them unlimited time to fix the problems, all the while with a smile on your face and a song in your heart...............I'm not sure if I admire that attitude or want the name of the drugs you're evidently taking!
It's safe to say that I would be WAY beyond just being an unhappy camper.
I'm not saying it was an issue in this situation, but I don't deal well with others incompetence, particularly when it directly affects me or my family. But that's just me.
YAY! (That was Special Ed,rooting for your delusions)
Knuckle draggin' is a nice arrangement and I cain't cuss the Woods.
Money grows on trees and that has yet to be a bad thing...........................
Stick, got a gold coin? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Can't fathom a rifle stock,shattering my World.
Obvious though,that some bruise easily and are better at throwing rocks,than fielding same......................
If someone stole pinkie from you, your world would be shattered........for a day at least. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Me, I'd just build another one but I don't live in Canada. Imagine the border BS would get old real quick.............
MtnHtr
Hey that's not fair. Why does CL have 17 pages of crap and I only have 13? Someone screwed me out of 4 pages. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
On the rifle you'll have to wait for the bigman to show you. I won't. not my style.
But I will show you another picture. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
how about....... a javelina.
FYI the guy with ASAT camo and the funny hat thats me a few years back. Just incase you need dartboard or basement material. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
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BTW I like the little instant graemlin thingy's, they are fun to click on.
Graduated witha 4.65 GPA outta Universty...
Ok now I know that I am not a smart man but I thought the grade scale stopped at a 4.0...........Blake (grin)
It was over 20 years ago... allthoseA'sstartrunningtogether <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />...
What is that line about some [bleep] white uniform and you not handeling the truth? Cmon tough guy.
It was over 20 years ago... allthoseA'sstartrunningtogether <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />...
Sounds like the BS is running together. Remind me not to take financial advice from a guy that is clueless about his GPA.
Graduated witha 4.65 GPA outta Universty...
Ok now I know that I am not a smart man but I thought the grade scale stopped at a 4.0...........Blake (grin)
You gotta flip burgers to get the extra bonus on top of a perfect 4.0 LMAO
3.65 Stetson... even you can count that high <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> For pete's sake ... doesn't ANYONE have a Leupold 2.5" matte finish 40mm '2004 or newer' sunshade they can sell me ?!?!?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
3.65 Stetson... even you can count that high <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Thats just a measurement you aspire to achieve. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Na, you can get a higher GPA in High school by taking college/weighed/honors classes. I only got to 3.24 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
oh well live and learn I guess.
how about another picture. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
This guy owns Dayone Camoflage in Englewood CO. Hunted with me a few years back.
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Nice Javelina. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I think you can exceed 4.0 if you take advanced placement (AP) classes, but I wouldn't know cus I had a hard enough time passing the regular classes.................................Pretty sure a pulled a 1.95 GPA one semister during college, but did I mentioned skied fresh tracks 40 days that semester!!!!! Damn, I miss those days................
i had a 3.5 taking college prep courses and doing good. coulda got a 4.00 but would have cut into my fun time, not that it mattered. i dont measure intellegence by a high school GPA i was reguarded by my peers as the smartest in my class though grades didnt show it i could take a calc test in half the time of the rest of the class and still match the grade of anyone who spent twice the time on it doing 90% of the work on paper and not relying on a calculator. some of the smarter ppl in the school had 2.5 GPA's cause they didnt like school and took their fun time even more serious than i did. couple of the dumbest ppl i ran across had GPA's higher than mine.
high school GPA is a piss poor way to measure smarts
I used my first student loan to buy an MGB. Then I convinced myself that studying on Daytona Beach during spring break was a "good idea". I guess I really can't count to 3.65. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Advanced "placement".....
TFF. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Poot, my best friend who played nose guard went to class twice a semester whether he need to or not...paid girls to take his tests and write his papers... he lived in the weight room, had a magnificent tan and highly cultivated buzz. Yeah, he has a degree and a decent GPA... course the 70's were different. GPA's ain't what they're cracked up to be... I'd rather been skiing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Hey guys would you wear these shorts in deer camp?
We were at the Kaibab and this guy comes out in these shorts. There were 2 cooks 12 guides and 9 clients there in all. And you should have heard us laughing. But hey if you are comfy go for it.
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Mtn Hunter;
I don't have any problem with Chuck, at all. In fact, I was attempting to help the thing get resolved (albeit not as smoothly as perhaps I shoulda or coulda).
At the end of the day, yeah, Chuck and Rick reached a mutually acceptable agreement. THAT is what counts.
The problem I had was with the comment earlier. Getting torqued 'cause [bleep] happened is normal. Continuing to gripe and b!tch and moan about it after a resolution is met is, well... it just don't sit.
Hey, if Chuck gets a stock he's happy with outta this, and Rick's met his end of it, everything is kosher. Time will tell; as it always does. Complaining constantly about it until that time is far from kosher.
BTW, Chuck, if you wanna give me your end of, jfsag, PM me the details, or ask for my e-mail addy. You can write it all down, and I'd otherwise offer to do it via phone, but this weekend is dedicated to getting away from life-surrounded-by-boxes (i.e. finishing up a move... mostly).
BTW - I agree with rattler, GPA is a piss-poor way to measure intelligence, and has NO correlation to common sense at all.
I do like comfortable, but that ain't my color.
If my Pink Rifle got pinched,I'd go 284Win NULA.
I can relate to logistics,SE is 2 weeks from everywhere,a genuine Geographical Oddity.(grin)
Loved that movie.....................
Stetson
For a second there i thought you typed MGD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
can ya get a mcm stock in that plaid?
it'd beat some of the bowling ball iterations.
Chuck,I'm not privvy to the conversations you and the fella's share at the YMCA.
However,I don't feel slighted.................
I think there were more than a few of thoose involved. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Chuck is just wound up and made a coupla bad moves,based solely on emotion.
Women do that........................(grin)
I actually pulled a reasonable cumulative GPA, but I did it in a rather unique fashion. Kind of went something like this....1.95 GPA, 3.9GPA, 2.2 GPA, 3.7GPA, etc. you get the general idea. The funny thing is there was a direct correlation between my GPA and the amount of snow in a given semester. High snow semesters, low GPA, low snow semsters High GPA. Man's got to have priorities............back then it was skiing and climbing
I ain't gonna insult him on being wound up and making a coupel bad moves, based on emotion. Humans are prone to doing that.
BT/DT; and have had a BUNCH of clients that got themselves into FAR worse pickles than he (or anyone else involved in this one) has by making any decision based on emotion.
Insults are inappropriate behavior on a Forum frequented by grown men..........................
Says you, ya knuckledraggin' dwarf..............
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
You're learnin'.....................
some are slower than others ... and some move so slowly you'd swear they were moving backwards ... but I won't name any names ................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Do you realize none of this chitt would happen if the send button was in another room. It is way too easy to hit "SEND" and you can't call it back once it is gone and threads like this start. Therefore, I think the send button need to be harder to use. Here are a few ideas.
Option 1: Get an electric shock when the button is used via a small electrode connected to your chiken skin. I guranteeeeeeeeeee that would make you think twice about hitting that button.
Option 2: Costs $2.00 every time you push the button
Option 3: Put the send button in the bathroom and it is only operational after your father-in-law has dropped a hiroshima sized pile of wolf bait in the dunny. If this were the case I would never send another message again in my life and I would put the computer in the trash. That man can make a Vulture's eyes water <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Enrinque, I am trying your diversionary tactics!!!
WGM;
Done been guilty of the snail-paced reverse two-step a time or two myself..... I'd be lyin' if I said I weren't.
amen to that ... we've ALL been there before ...
it's just a cryin' shame to see it in action, over and over again, accelerating in pace with each ensuing backward step ...
this thread is FULL of such incidences ...........
Poot, that best friend of mine with the fictional GPA and degree is also the most sucessful (financially) guy I know... a GPA only proves you were at University. My brother is a Phd, Mensa member and makes a lotta dough... he can barely tie his own shoes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'd rather been putting up a new route in Patagonia...
Sometimes you have to take 1 step back to get 2 forward. What's more important is the trend...
I'd rather been putting up a new route in Patagonia...
Patagonia has a golf course?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
"trends" ... like continuing to try to dig your way out of a hole ... or continuing to step backward, faster and faster, without remembering that you're trying to move forward ... well, I do my best to avoid those "trends" ................
VA, you're more than welcome to give me a ring anytime. I'm going to be chasing bear all weekend, but catch up to me whenever.
Chuck
I am in total agreement about Patagonia and smarts for that matter. Some of the best and brightest I know have never been anywhere near a University.......Too bad I don't fall in that catagory........ I went back for a second tour and got my masters and I am still as dumb as bag of hammers. Street-smarts wins everytime in my book.
Did I ever tell yawl about all the Leupolds I've busted over 223's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Did I ever tell yawl about all the Leupolds I've made a rattle can of over 223's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Twice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Smartest guy I ever knew graduated Valedictorian of my high school class. Graduted Magna Cum Laude from a well known and respected university, and got a masters from UCLA.
He now manages a Taco Bell.
Go figure.
Last I saw my Class President,he was manning the drive-thru at Taco Bell.
Am thinking I dug the sighting,more than him...............(grin)
Opening morning I was out with a friend, (trying to get rid of me) he says, "Why don't you go up that ridge to the next valley?" I wander up there and come to a meadow. While standing in the tree line wondering what to do next this little guy walks straight up to me and asks for a ride in the truck. [img]
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The validictorian (sp) of my graduating class drives nails, and I was lucky to get invited to the grad ceremony (hunting instead of homework) and sit at a desk and deal in several zero's daily. One no better than the other, just wasn't the expected outcome.
Life's funny.
well, the only time Ive ordered a McMillan, was from Rick Bin
first go round they shipped him a short action, hard to fit a 416 remington into that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
finally got it in my hands, with an excellent paint job by Rick. sadly the barrel contour was for a pencil, not a magnum contour, so it costed me $190 for the channel to be opened up, and bedding, on my dollar.
maybe I got unlucky too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
The kid I mentioned,was a good egg and likely still is. But the look on his face was very revealing.
My world is black and white,you get whatcha get and can like it or lump it. He liked to operate differently and the cat outta the bag countenance,was nearly painful to see.
[bleep],I've been up and I've been down,but I ain't never not been me..........................
Todd, apparently you didn't make the appropriate incantation's while facing coastal AK...
OK, I am moving your send button in to my father-in-law's bathroom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> or would you prefer the elecrode attached to teabag central?? Your call...................
The phone,ain't new,nor is the 'puter.
A guy makes his own luck,in all Hemispheres.................
Funny thing is...most of the millionaires and multis that I know, have gone bust at least once.
That being said, I don't tally success by $ or by letters following my name...I'm fairly content.
I figure a guy is either an azzhole,or he ain't and one cain't buy into or out of,either category........................
Poot, I think I was in your FIL's bathroom... I ain't going back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Good news is I broke 4000 posts after this thread, being member #48.
Bad news is I'm lagging behind Larry to the tune of 13,500+ posts... BS stands for more than just Big Stick...
There I go again... zzzzzaaaaapppp.
Damn tea bags!
I offered a long time ago,to delete my Post count,so you could sleep at night.
'Course,when a guy knows nuttin',he cain't offer nuttin'....................
I've been scanning through this mess for a while now, and I'm having a hard time finding where you guys are seeing the lack of communication on Chuck's part. He placed his order (which is all he should have to do), and after he received the stock that wasn't as ordered, he contacted the person that he ordered it from. After that didn't work, he contacted the manufacturer direct. That still didn't resolve it. I fail to see him as the bad guy here. (though I wouldn't have brought it up on the board)
If I needed to fill out an order form, plus call it in, and then follow up with an email to be sure they got it right, I wouldn't be using them.
Likewise, if my customers had to go through that much crap to "create their own luck", I wouldn't have a job.
Here is a jack I killed with a Rock in Sonora. AkJeff can confirm this.
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Creating bad luck,is easily arranged too.
My preference,is hedging a bet,in all matters. That's why I just whooped out a fresh batch of killer eggs.
You boys scream and shout,I'm heading to the creek to see if Chuck was right,in casting me the Fish Meister Title.
A pun there......................
Kevin, you're mostly right... the only part you got wrong is the stock went back to the guy TWICE that he ordered it from and ONCE to the original mfg (McMillan).
I know cause I sent back the stock to southern CA the first time... the bolt cutout looked like Larry had worked it over with a Husky... not to mention butchered pad, wrong LOP and studs.
Third time and seven months failed to wrork the charm hence the thread... apparently it was the right move as action was forthcoming.
My last post on the subject... Rick's been battered around plenty but he's done the right thing.
Carry on Larry...
Clearly, the stock is cursed. Nothing else explains this madness.
Where ever it is now, it should be purified with fire and the remains cast into the sea.
- TJM
You make funny joke.................................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Whatsamatterwitu, ya run out of spawn?
Ever notice that. Always seems that once someone at work FUBARS a job, no matter how many times you try to redo it something always goes wrong. I hate being the clean-up batter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
I'm glad I signed onto this board! I believe this is the first time I ever read a thread with 400+ posts.......my eyes hurt.
Well at least three paint jobs bring luck.
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With your luck, when you put the new/replacement stock on it probably won't hold a group. It'll be right, but it won't shoot.
Jeff
With your luck, when you put the new/replacement stock on it probably won't hold a group. It'll be right, but it won't shoot.
Jeff
laffin' here .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
The thought has entered my mind.
Well at least three paint jobs bring luck.
I guess a dime would cover that right target in the states....
Can't believe I read this train wreck. It did enlighten me on a few things, though mostly unrelated to stock making.
That dime is now worth over 9 cents. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
HEHE!!!!! Just spewed coke all over my screen!!
That tea bag electrode is not producing the desired results I see. I think I need to take the electrode off the 9 volt and hook it to my 50 amp welder circuit in order to get the desired resuts. Let's just say you won't ever need another bikini waxing again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Sure.
But it might be a great day to just go fishin............
I guess a dime would cover that right target in the states....
Damn gator don't know two bits when he sees it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
three things I have been able to count on.......sun is coming up everyday........my kids love me..........and this thread continues.......................................................................
Four things: I can count on my ability to still catch fish.
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Chuck has a nice read on my Fish Meisterdness.
But how come the image reminds of someone leading Brad around by the nose,drowning yet again?!!?..............................
BS,
Do you like catching these fish?
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I Crappie,Smallmouth,Largemouth,Hybrid,Shad,Striper,Sturgeon and chase Salmonids in freshwater.
Growed up,hurting them all............................
And of course Bluegill....................
Little bastards eat great,they're just a bitch to clean........................
One summer my friend and I went to Canyon lake near Phoenix. Our main goal was Bluegill. They were spawning and were easy to catch. We came home with over 150 of those things. Cleaned fish till 2 AM that time.
We cried all night about it, but the following day, we made pigs of ourselves.
Kique
That's where one guy with an electric fillet knife and another with a regular knife,can fly through fillets.
A board with a small headless nail,is also crazy handy....................
hot skillet filled with corn oil, little bluegill fillets breaded in corn meal and a super cold case of beer........................Damn.......the thought has me worked into an absolute lather <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Cold beer and pan fish fried in a cast iron skillet takes the cake in my book!!! That is good eatin
I like the sound of the pan fried fish , but since I don't drink, I'll take a Pepsi.
Imagine all of us around the cook with this as a background...
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Hard to beat that thought.
Here is my old man with my three monsters. My old man lives in the south and all he does is fish. We took the rug-rats out one morning a few weeks back and caught a few dolphin. That night we cranked up the grill and ate like kings. Dolphin, melts in your mouth!!!
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Well done......................
I've seen a few threads that tended to Dog track the subject, but this sucker is running sideways <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
The little guys had a blast. However, my seven year old almost started chumming cus the seas was up that day........However, they still had a great time and they licked the bones clean on those fish that night. Fish and game eaters for life, those three
I've seen a few threads that tended to Dog track the subject, but this sucker is running sideways <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
That is for a reason!!!! This thing has been pretty civil for the last hour or so, dare I say we might be out of the woods????
I think Enrique's diversion tactics may have worked <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Wait 'til tonight...for my experiment extolling the Mythical 6x42's virtues,ala Blackened Bruins,unsuspecting in their quest for life sustaining nourishment.
It'll be riveting...will the magnification be enough,the eye-relief proper,the lowly Duplex reticle visible and the aquisition swift enough?!!!?
Then the debacle regarding the X-boolit...will shee fly true,open up or pencil through? What happens when skeletons are crushed and exit holes leak goo?
I'm on the edge of my seat,man,just thinking about all the [bleep] that could go wrong!.........................
LOL!!!! You must have been dropped on your head as a child <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
for the bluegill, just scale, behead, gut, roll in flour, egg mixture pan fry and chow down!
Grew up catching them all summer long, for 10 or more years, as we had a lake out in the front yard...
What if.....the Decelerator pad doesn't nestle in the furrowed fold of my shoulder and my purty cheeks don't accurately align the comb?
What if....it rains and my beloved McMillan gets wet,a scritch is suffered in transit or the flushcup eeks and untimely sound?
What if...the taped muzzle explodes into shards of white-hot shrapnel?
What if..the fruitless hours of practice,bear no fruit?
What if.my timing is off and there's no Bruin to be found?
Holy [bleep] man,this is deep stuff,that'll perplex a man's very soul!.........................
easy man... you best go get jughead to give you a big hug.
Is it bear hunting time yet?
Step away from the can of glue....................... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Yeah, but you is one "Lucky" Bastid.
Poot -- I don't understand the teabag thing - maybe you could recommend something more my style (size) -- am thinking something in the "potato sack" variety?
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
LMAO!!!! You know that have a name for that affliction..............it's called elephantiasis <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
hey gang,
Did we find a channel we can agree on? Or do you think we should put it back on the fight?
Either way I like the one we are on. Very Civil and quite enjoyable.
Kique
Rolled a coupla fish,in a coupla casts,at the Donut Hole.
Am cleaning the garage(sorta),loading shells(sorta) and waiting for Sisterman to get home from school. 'Humper is gonna take his youngest to a Bear Hidey Hole and I think I'm gonna take Sister to another(both,by truck),then we were gonna compare notes tonight.
Brother Dave just called,they made it to where I was working last and are grabbing booze and fuel. All sounded well.
You wanna come and back Sister up,while I roll the camera? She'll be pizzed,if you hit her rug in the azz.(grin)
Weather is taming,some...........................
yeah, i'll come back sister up..
Hey gang,
One more thing. bucks and Javelina like the ones posted in the pictures of mine, can be hunted and killed when a hunt is booked with Enrique's Trophy Hunts. Sizes and species may vary. Sunsets will vary too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
for those of us with no dog in the ring, the fight was more entertaining ...
funny how hard it is to turn your head from watching a train wreck ...
far more drama there than elsewhere ... but I won't complain if you guys continue to post pictures of your outtings ............. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Come by,about 6:30....................
cool.. i'm going to go roll a steelhead in the meantime...
the boys called me too... crazy bastids
Am thinking it's time to dig out tackle and get the kids to hook some rainbows this weekend.
Bears and Steelhead are ON,here.....................
If you put 'em in a box,you'd make Spike's day.....................(grin)
It�s threads like this that remind me how much I LOVE this place� I used to think I was a regular guy and now I KNOW I�m one of the luckiest bastids alive. My McMillan stocks are stable, light contour barrels shoot, SUCKS don�t fire on safety release, nary a bolt handle has come unhinged, Leupies with standard duplex work �til dark, S30V blades hold an edge and don�t chip, and my beloved 7 rem mags don�t have wild pressure swings and kill chit with 140 grain boolits � thinkin� here that maybe I should head to Vegas or buy some lotto ticlets�
Course I think I read somewhere one time something to the tune of..."a guy makes his own luck." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
been fryin' the fool outa yearling bass, freshwater stripes and cats. giving fillets away at work to city folks. they are ever thankful for truly fresh fish ....
glad too see levity is reigning once again. talk of fishin' will do that.
Gotta love people that can't come up with anything on their own.
Like your Winchester in a McMillan handle?....................
Too funny DB, they would, however, make some nice bait for some big northern pike <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
steelheading is easy. Lost a big sucker due to Hook Failure (straightened out on me) and landed a few average fish.
i saw a lil' bear running the beach on the way to the steelhead hole.
"Genious" remains incorrect,but dat's your calling.........................
I was rolling today's fish in the upper and mid-section of the drift,just shy of the two rocks at the bottom. Never could hook or roll anything downtown of those nuggets. You?
If a guy hit the creeks early,it'd take alotta body bags to house the carnage.
Game on............................
Am loading pics,a pard just Emailed,of his recent McMillan delivery.
Pics in a few......................
All mine came in the upper opposite quadrant where that other riffle feeds into the main riffle. Nothing low.
One of the steelhead I caught was weird looking. I took me a bit to call it a steelhead and not a rainbow. All kinds of big spots on it, but had chrome. If it was a rainbow, it was HUGE.
I rolled a coupla Pigger Rainbow last night,with Brother Bill.
Didja get pictures?...................
Apparently,so is the thinkin',but I'm good with that.....................
For the bitch & moan faction.
Prepare...for pixels.(grin)
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Uppermost pair,is hot off the press..................
no, i didn't bring my camera.
is sister all fired up to go kill a bear?
A portion of the Paradise "success" percentage.
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'Course,DownSouth pards are batting likewise......................
Pink Rifle is about wore out,from dry-fire practice.
She's ready................
I can't believe I read this entire episode.
My McMillans are all resting soundly, (sans cracks, paint blemishes, or any other puckups) I am not posting my GPA and I did my time flipping the "flame broiled" patties. So I have nothing constructive to add, just didn't want to be the only sob who hasn't posted on it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Gotta love people that can't come up with anything on their own.
Was gonna reply "you mean except for my 13 McMillan stocked rifles", or "you mean like the elk I've killed without an outfitter and a barbed wire fence in the photo background", but since I can't come up with anything on my own will let this suffice:
Like your Winchester in a McMillan handle?....................
That olive (could be OD)/black/white remains my favorite. Was it ordered as equal parts?
I'll give the 223 trick a try. Will they bite on LA's?
Thanks for making my point. Apreciate it.
Thanks for making my point. Apreciate it.
No prob...and we'll just consider that other p in apPreciate as the cad/us exchange rate....
I'll give the 223 trick a try. Will they bite on LA's?
Hint ...... 240 Wby Mag (or 6mm-06)
I recieved my first Mcmillan last week,as I ussally use Rimrocks,I chose a Remington classic, black paint and it looks to be perfect ,I also understand Chucks fustration,not only about the wait but also when you pay a premium for these stocks I think Mcmillan should give undivided attention to any mistakes made including all shipping cost to said parties!! I'll likely order another! AF BTW it came in at 29.5oz better than expected!
A portion of the Paradise "success" percentage.
While you're at it with the camera and some of your iron, can we have a gander at a few of your 600's in McMillans? Interested to see what pattern you stuck em in. Classic I presume, but would like more beta if you get a sec.
The A5 in the middle is the swirl using equal portions of the GAP camo colors, yes? Basically, the same colors used in SHR's stock, but different amounts? My A5 (the one that's "sick" right now) is basically the same, but sub light gray for the tan ... I can like it a lot, as far as the swirleys go ...
this is a bad pic of mine ...
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very similar to yours ...
'Stick, ... WTF is a Fibergrain duin in that line-up???
Enrique,
A for effort pard. Some nice pics for sure.
Laffed myself into some serious kidney trouble on this thread. Some funny goings on.
Mac
After looking at some of the stocks posted. Are you guys sure they came from McM not the WalMart or Willy Wonka? Some funny looking stocks with odd shapes and interesting patterns. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Man it would be cool to show these stocks to someone who is high. I bet they would trip out all day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'll stick to Factory plastic until K-Mart shows me the stocks they make. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Kique
What do you guys think of this Cat?
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Took him with a Howa in .243 shooting 100 grain partitions. I found him by glassing with big optics off a tripod. Then I called him into range and wam!! 300 yard shot and he was dead.
[bleep] Remington jammed,X-boolit penciled through,B&C flip-ups broke,black tape split the muzzle,the 6x42 weren't enough Oooomph and the Pink stock held her back.
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/BigStick/Stuff/SistermanFirstBear.jpg)
Give or take...................(grin)
What a beautiful child!! You, my man, are in trouble!!
As the owner of many rifles and many stocks, some Mac, some Bansner, some Rimrock and some HS,and as a guy that deals with customer service on a daily basis to the tune of $8million per annum, I gotta say....
Laffin at the toadies here............. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Great photo stick. I was hopping to see a photo of them hogs you rolled last night. Living vicariously here in motor city until fall. Oh and I think I saw a slight paint abberation on the stock with the Jolly Roger. Better cull that one. I just happen to know a lonely gun safe that wouldn't kick it out fer having a butt that's 1/4" too big. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Congrats to Sister. Might could be the best Huntin' doesn't have anything to do with pullin' the trigger yourself. Am bettin' Dad has a bigger smile than sister, although not by much. Way to go. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Very, very nice picture Big Stick!
Congrats to the young lady, and to Pops for getting that fire lit.
Sorry to hear of your mishaps with that POS rig, but evidently, she too can make her own luck!
Again, well done! and thanks for sharing the pics!
Nice photo. Great bear and even better looking kid. Too bad about the equipment failure. Hope the stock didn't get any marks on it.
Great pic...Stick. Very nice bear and results, even if your rig was equiped with POS VW hubcap cheapo plastic flip ups. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Now how about some details, man, details?!!! Did Sister kill it? What gun was used? What grain pencilly X boolits? How far? Come on, don't be a hunt-tease.
my favoritist pic yet. she sure does look like a purty version of her daddy - as if that is somehow possible.
ah, the miracle of children.
speaking of bears, we don't have to worry about them while fishing down here. there is, however, a ruinous herd of "personal water craft."
if only a season would be established ... couldn't eat 'em, though, and they'd make lousy rugs.
Nice bear Stick!!!! Me thinks that cute little girl must look like her mom, if not, you may want to get a DNA test <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Just kidding.
There is nothing better than spending time with your kids in the woods and great memories to boot. Nice animal and thanks for sharing.
Ted
Kique,
Nice pussy cat!!!! Where did you nail it? How big, weight, details?
4.65 GPA
The closest I got to 4.65 was blood alcohol level....
Stick
very very cool pic.
That's a spacer system,on the adjustable butt,to tweak LOP. Far more static,than say the 3-way adjustable butts.
Those handles are Ramhunter's.......................
Cool Cougar, a friend smokes them with mesquite or hickory and claims they taste similar to pork.
Well the only pussy I like.................nevermind
that be a nice cat.
i like 'em dead in all sizes ...
Shot the cat a few years ago a couple days before Christmas. It was taken on a friends ranch just behind my moms house where we do a lot of deer and Javelina hunting. Was out helping a friend deer hunt when I glassed the cat walking through the mesquites. After that is was all experience and good judgement.
The cat was a tad over 6 ft and weighed around 90 to 100 pounds. The best part about the whole ordeal was it was a female. So taking her out sure prevented others from coming out of her you know what.
Hopefully someday I can take another one and get a nice mount done. this one the freezer broke and the dang thing went bad.
Kique
that be a nice cat.
i like 'em dead in all sizes ...
DEAD and CAT can be used in the same sentence as GOOD and CAT, if the word ONLY is a modifier of the good one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
We are at 591 posts. 592 after this one. We are sooo close to 600. Does anyone else have any pictures or stories to share?
I am open to discussion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
kique
593 .... I hope is falls short of 600 ... but then again I hope Barry Bonds falls short of 714 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Enrique,
Here ya go. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Any excuse to post this one is great as I was proud of him. Got Axis in AZ?
![[Linked Image]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/mtnman1/Axis/P1010205.jpg)
avagadro - +1 on Bonds...
I'll getcha past 600,in style.
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/BigStick/Stuff/KyleKitty.jpg)
And oh how I wish...somebody will top that.......................(grin)
ROTFLMAO. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Admittedly,it is some of my best Photography.
Did Chuck mention I was great with a camera,or do I gotta do it?!!?..............(grin)
No way to top that... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Is there a scratch on that stock?
Amongst other things.
Cat notches is heavy scritches....................(grin)
He was just a little guy,but he done me proud.....................
Wonder where he got the idea to bustem in the shoulder?........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Ya done good.
Am thinkin' ya may have to send the stock in for repairs.
If McMillan made a Chickmunk handle,betch'er ass I'd have one..........................or two
I think we broke 600.
I hope Barry bonds drowns in all that juice he has in his a$$.
That is a pretty kitty kat. A lot nicer than my lion. Give us some details of that hunt BS.
I also wish we had Axis deer in AZ. If we did they'd be giants like our elk.
We'll hate to start another fire. But I don't think K-Mart is going to be making stocks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> We'll I guess us dreamers will have to keep dreaming. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
600,is long gone.
I've no beef with Bonds,Hulk Hogan,The Terminator nor Lyle Alzado.
The above wasn't a Hunt,it was Self Defense. Them damned Cats will go right for your eyes,so you gotta bust 'em,when opportunity allows. Self-preservation,man.
Hollowpoints serve well,but sometimes it takes a while,for all 9-lives to flip/flop themselves outta corpse.
I love Cats................
Just for kicks.
I think I am going to go get some food like this for dinner.
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Or maybe we should all sit around a table like this in Mexico on one of my ranches.
you decide <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Do I see this happening to this discussion?
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I think so. Well it was nice well it lasted. I'll have to find some more photos for us to share when the next fight breaks out and the channel needs changing.
Kique
If only Brother Bill had Emailed me the pictures from our dinner downtown,the other night.
Though it mighta snapped you and shattered my Celestial image,I'da took the hit...for the team.....................(grin)
Pard,a picture cain't remove the "uck" outta a Canuck,nor the hindlegs of a sheep,outta Brad's boots.
But you're welcome to try......................
The cream WILL rise to the top...
Pard,a picture cain't remove the "uck" outta a Canuck,nor the hindlegs of a sheep,outta Brad's boots.
But you're welcome to try......................
When the Good Lord made you he broke the mold.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Enrique ... looks like it's time for some more of your 'diversionary tactics' .................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
OK. here's one of me on one of my coues deer ranches in Sonora. The optics are Fujinon the tripod is a Velbon and it was a cold morning.
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Lttle Sister can now join the club........
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and when I showed the pic of your daughter to my grand-daughter she told me to send this pic....
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/DBBill/HelloKitty.jpg)
No,definately pretty.
Unsomber,most definately..................
Actually, he said unSOBER.
Dickshine,you missed the crux of the rebuttal. I was neither drinking,nor cranky.
Let the men talk.
Need elaboration?......................
As an aside,my Manly Beauty stands.......................
LMAO, Larry, his Royal Potentate the Daily Lamo, has his dander up... God forbid any of the surfs would dare complain about one of His Majesty's objects of worship...
What a [bleep] maroon...
Dat's funny... Loan Officer at a Mortgage Co, CommoditiesTrader and run my own Construction Co. Graduated witha 4.65 GPA outta Universty...
Beats being a knuckle dragging lumber jack with Little Man's Disease...
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Hey that's not fair. Why does CL have 17 pages of crap and I only have 13? Someone screwed me out of 4 pages. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
On the rifle you'll have to wait for the bigman to show you. I won't. not my style.
But I will show you another picture. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
how about....... a javelina.
FYI the guy with ASAT camo and the funny hat thats me a few years back. Just incase you need dartboard or basement material. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
BTW I like the little instant graemlin thingy's, they are fun to click on.
Enrique',
The hat and camo doesn't bother me in the least. It's the "Brokeback Mountain" pose that worries me some.
.
Just kiddin' pard.
Sweet!....another lap dog,jumping through hoops and lickin' ass.
This might could be the Double Bonus Round.................
Hey guys would you wear these shorts in deer camp?
We were at the Kaibab and this guy comes out in these shorts. There were 2 cooks 12 guides and 9 clients there in all. And you should have heard us laughing. But hey if you are comfy go for it.
No, but I wouldn't wear a GUT like that in deer camp either!! LOL
'96...try this. Remove your tongue from the unlucky ass and regale the gallery with your McMillan exploits.
Or if you'd rather,keep on eating [bleep].......................
Do you live in Alaska, and are ya pretty?
Soliciting dates?....................
Am hoping that Mauser96 didn't print my picture and is now pleasuring himself with same.
While I'm powerless over female's wanton desires of my Manly Beauty,clueless lapdogs are wayyyyyyy outta line and I feel somewhat violated.
If he PM's again,asking for my dirty socks,I'll be forced to wage a war of words.
Though...I like them "odds"...................
Dickshine,you missed the crux of the rebuttal. I was neither drinking,nor cranky.
Let the men talk.
Need elaboration?......................
Nope, hadn't been on here for awhile, and just wanted to see if you were sitting at the computer, waiting to respond to threads.
And you were.
Thank God for all your knowledge and readiness to respond.
LOL
Sweet!....another lap dog,jumping through hoops and lickin' ass.
This might could be the Double Bonus Round.................
Might could?
Soliciting dates?....................
Nice of you to inquire, but I am married to a wonderful woman, have no interest in men, and in any event, midgets don't interest me.
You were right where you were seen last...trying to salvage scraps under the radar,because the gumption to provide your own means,escapes you.
What were the "odds"?..............
Please stop sending me pm's. I told you, Midgets don't interest me.
"Might could" was rhetorical,it's easy to see where a [bleep] rat is gonna crawl.......................
If you ever learn English type it here. You're quick on the keyboard..I'll give you that.
You flatter yourself,to hint at proposition,from me. That's what I get for Posting my picture,another deviant ogling the obvious.
Nop doubt you harbor as many women in the home,as you do McMillan's.
Dat's thinly veiled...................
That one took awhile. Beer fog setting in, or just had to think a bit to get the words "just right"?
Stop PM ing me.
Noone never don't understand what I mean and the faux pas PM rebuttal,was beyond infantile.
You'll wanna refrain from trying to mimic my maneuvering,because you've neither the cranial fortitude,nor diction.
The number of women in your life,attest to same......................
Translation: Ass lickin' dogs,never have anything new to offer,because all they digest...is remnants................
I'm having trouble deciphering your version of English.
Your fixation with how many McMillans I own show that your personality is as deep as you are tall.
Enlighten the masses with imagery extolling a single declarative sentence,you've pontificated.
Erstwhile harboring the notion,that the "search" function is a handy SOB......................
Still thinking? Gotta get that 'laska drawl down right.
Nice try on the bait and switch,which is counterintuitive of this very Thread's Title.
Some things go without saying,despite your spraying.........................
Lemme state again,plainly.
REMEMBER the "search" function.........................
Good Lord. He's changed from a knuckle dragger to an English professor!
"Erstwhile". That kills me.
One of the reasons I come to this forum is to laugh at you and your funny way of writing.
I used to think "Big Momma" meant she was a heavy woman. After seeing your picture, I know it means she is more than 4' 2".
Though, she still may be heavy.
So, is she heavy.......or just taller?
(sorry, that goes without saying)
Alotta things "kill" you,because you know not,done not,got not,prosper not,forecast not...but digress lots.
Typical of all Rodents,the retreat is the only direction you know............................
"She" needs zero quantification,unlike your fantasies................
So, is she heavy.......or just taller?
(sorry, that goes without saying)
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I guess that one hurt.
How tall are you, anyways?
You should give some serious thought to applying for Midget status. "might could" get you some gov assistance? Then you wouldn't have to rely so much on "BIG momma"
'night Stick.
See you tomorrow.
Oh the pain....of being married to a hot Wife.
I could only surmise you may feign a portion of the appreciation,if only in wafting seconds,as you recount a Village People video.........................
Why is it seemingly a constant in our Society,that those abusing the system wanna cajole ways for others to lower all standards and discard every shred of pride,so as to boast similar "privelages" of assistance?!!?
Lap dogs and freeloaders are the bane of the working man.
'96,what might your vocation be?......................
LOL,
You've made the mistake, through bragging, of revealing your height and your wife's weight.
Neither impress me or others here.
And telling you my vocation, would likely increase your pm's to me, so I won't go into that.
'night Stick.
I don't brag,I perform,those differences are stark.
Just read through your recent Posts and nearly pissed my pants at your adolescent buffoonary. You are like a Hummingbird,in that you cain't decide who's ass to lick next. Never ONE sole original thought,never a firsthand accounting,it's all awestruck peter-pullin' and hopping aboard Bandwagons.
Whatta lying douche,who's incapable of anything but rubbing elbows,in an attempt to glean favor in SOMEONE's eye.
The epitome of a turd in a punchbowl...too [bleep] phunny!!!..................
As disfunctional as we all are, I can see this one hitting 700 and going past it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
We may even get 714 which bonds can't seem to do and he's on juice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
Hopefully we get there before he does.
Enrique
As disfunctional as we all are, I can see this one hitting 700 and going past it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
We may even get 714 which bonds can't seem to do and he's on juice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
Hopefully we get there before he does.
Enrique
At the rate this one is going, I'd say 1,000 isn't out of the realm of possibilities <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Wait 'til tonight...for my experiment extolling the Mythical 6x42's virtues,ala Blackened Bruins,unsuspecting in their quest for life sustaining nourishment.
It'll be riveting...will the magnification be enough,the eye-relief proper,the lowly Duplex reticle visible and the aquisition swift enough?!!!?
Then the debacle regarding the X-boolit...will shee fly true,open up or pencil through? What happens when skeletons are crushed and exit holes leak goo?
I'm on the edge of my seat,man,just thinking about all the [bleep] that could go wrong!..........................
What if.....the Decelerator pad doesn't nestle in the furrowed fold of my shoulder and my purty cheeks don't accurately align the comb?
What if....it rains and my beloved McMillan gets wet,a scritch is suffered in transit or the flushcup eeks and untimely sound?
What if...the taped muzzle explodes into shards of white-hot shrapnel?
What if..the fruitless hours of practice,bear no fruit?
What if.my timing is off and there's no Bruin to be found?
Holy [bleep] man,this is deep stuff,that'll perplex a man's very soul!.........................
Now we're talking !!! That's a realality show that I could get into
Good morning everyone
Just trying to help beat Bonds record.I think were pretty close boy's.
Is someone here on steroids?
Well,it ain't Brad...................
That's what I was thinkin'........................(grin)
holy [bleep]....
We've got 'Sticks lil 'uns running roughshod over puss's of the feline persuasion, while those of a Bavarian bent are coming late to the game....
Sister lookin' stylish with a fathead yogi in full repose (dude... 'Stick, you is in SO much trouble in a matter of years....);
A bevy of Mickey's in Paradise, sided with the newest.... a Tactical sock no doubt....
Mickey's of all flavors pixelatin' in from parts far flung,
Handy and tasty finned flavors bein' hauled in north and south,
And through it all, this dog just ain't givin' it up for a LONG time yet.
(How's the 'Stick-ism prose suit?) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Copy cat posting is like clones and never as aquires the status of the original
Not attempting to acquire the status of the original, at all, as I am not that person, nor is it my style.
I just figured I'd give it a go, jfsag, and partially due to the fact that some folks can't seem to figure out that 1) it ain't that hard to understand, and 2) it ain't a dsmf that post that way; trying to think and type that way ain't easy.
It does bend the brain a bit, but no one ever said 'Stick wasn't a little bent and twisted. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Regardless, 'Stick, you are in DEEP [bleep] when Sister hits about 15.... deep...
Damn nice bear, though. Measurements? Weight?
BTW - was that Jughead (or you) with the tamed tabby?
And, how did we get from a stock-f'kin' to fishin' to bear huntin' to dog-azz-lickin?
Do I even wanna know?
Not that I'm the least bit fascinated, I'm surprised a picture of elmo hasn't surfaced in regards to an azz licker.
Mac
He didn't say please.......................
Hey this thread needs 25 more post!!
it is early yet. stick probably aint had his coffee or is out sore lipping steelies. check back about noon and it will be way over 25 more posts as stick gives us a lengthy sunday sermon on all things paradise. Course noone can put it into such words as Stick
Needs only 23 more posts now.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
The offensive ground to a halt and the defenders are now counterattacking. A dangerouos salient is being squeezed in custom rifles. The battle of sheep butte has begun..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I couldn't help myself I had to read all 28 pages worth. Lots of hilarious stuff there.
My favorites:
5. Chuck is getting his new stock thats cool
4. Chuck needs to Massengil his sour puss
3. Stick is a knuckle draggin dwarf
2. Mauser96 is/was pleasuring himself with a picture of Stick
1. My alltime favorite is Houngirl's coochie is in good order and she is looking for a Peter Meter
Had grand plans of taking Momma and the brood out on the Mother's Day Massacre Bear Hunt,but she's opting to Garden in this fine weather and having a Coor's Light while doing so.
Might go greedily pick a Bear out for myself.....................
Now this is too funny.
Momma's out in front of the house,raking a soil bed,cramming some sorta bushes in the ground,while Aerosmith is crankin' pretty good outta the living room's opened windows/front door and her beer is on the porch.
I'd just remembered that I'd left my Zeiss bino's in her car,from the drive with B-dub and Brother Dave today and my Zeiss spotter in mine,from last night's gawk session on the mountain in front of the house at two goodly sized Bears.
I see the Jo-Ho's were making the rounds at the neighbors and for some reason hopped in their rig and never hit my driveway or even slowed down. Kinda feeling slighted,here.
I'm soooooooooo laughing..........................(grin)
Woulda loved to hear the sermon you and Big Momma would throw at em for stopping. Maybe they could read sign. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Powerguy,
I too laughed mao about HG's coochie comments.
Mebbe that Sermon had already been cast and a trend was noted?!!?................................(grin)
I see the Jo-Ho's were making the rounds at the neighbors and for some reason hopped in their rig and never hit my driveway or even slowed down. Kinda feeling slighted,here.
We must have a more aggressive strain of Jo-Ho's around here. They come around at least three or four time a year, in banner years 10 or 12 visits aren't uncommon. You can't seem to be nice to these folks either,as they don't understand "No Thank you I'm not interested." And Paradise style detterent sermons also fall on deaf ears.
But letting go with a .300 Winchester in the backyard and sitting on the front porch racking the slide on an 870 works wonders in getting their attention. Never had a Jo-Ho linger or even slow down during these activities <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
I was not going to make any more posts on this thread so it could die. But shoot, everyone else is so hey I am back!! Lets see if I can put up some more pics to help the cause to 714.
Enrique
I was not going to make any more posts on this thread so it could die. But shoot, everyone else is so hey I am back!! Lets see if I can put up some more pics to help the cause to 714.
Enrique
Go For It!........
I can see a big red flag on the pegboard at the Jo-Ho church warning members to stay away. That'd be funny.
Hey gang,
If you had a tag in a high quality unit. Would you pass this buck up on day two and then kill it on day six?
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//850782-jason2.JPG)
And it starts again.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
I wouldn't pass on that buck on minute 2, much less day two.
What about this view. Only in Arizona and oh so beautiful.
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Nice;
The saguaros are certainly an interesting backdrop.
Otherwise, it's nice, but not that stunning; done seen a few out here with the Blue Ridge as the backdrop, and colors that defy human description....
Enrique ...
Gotta hand it to ya ... you got some serious pictures at your disposal ... thanks for sharing so far, and please, by all means, continue to post them ...
nice buck above too .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Hey gang,
If you had a tag in a high quality unit. Would you pass this buck up on day two and then kill it on day six?
And it starts again.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
I'd hammer that buck just as quickly as I could line up a shot on Day1, Day7, or any other day I could get him to stand still long enuff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
You are a good man!!
I looooove the desert....let me pull up a Saguaro pic....amazing how big the things can get!!!
BRB!!
HoundGirl
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I love the Pipe cactus scene, further south. Southern AZ, in late August, is Heaven....hot as hell....but not a soul to be found for MILES <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />!!! Oh, man, the crazy lightneing storms/monsoons (sp?) were crazy. Loved it....
Woot!!
HoundGirl
What was this thread about...?
I can't remember <wink>....lol...
Here is another pic of the saguaro/desert scene....such a beautiful place.....I got pics of the pup fish pools, somewhere...long thirsty hike.....but worth every second.....
Anyhow, here is a pic I snapped....south of the big stuff.....
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HoundGirl
Only 13 more posts to go....we're gonna make it to 714 before Barry Bonds does <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
The mood swings of women..........................
I think the thread was about a stock. however, it quickly changes to seeing picture like this.......
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//850794-MuleDeer3A.jpg)
and like this.......
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//856176-DSCN0407.JPG)
and like this......
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//856181-DSCN1006.JPG)
I hope you all enjoy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
plus we are at 701 after this. We are closing in on barry rather quickly.
Kique
dude,
what the heck happened to the mauser guy??
round 2?
Perhaps, but how many men does it take to poke a dead horse?
I like the pics, and the change of topic...after all, it IS mother's day....
Enrique- got any pics more pics of the Javelina?
HoundGirl
Dead or alive, is good, for me....
Found this creature blooming along side a trail....
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You work in a beautiful place....as I am sure you already know...
HoundGirl
dude,
what the heck happened to the mauser guy??
round 2?
Methinks, Stick pinned his ears back so many times he ran for cover <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Here is what I got.
Dead Javelina. First one of the 2000 killed 01/01/00 at around 7:30 AM.
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//856210-Javelina1.jpg)
I also have this doe I took a photo of when I was out with Rick and Blaine last summer.
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//856212-DSCN0898.JPG)
HG When were you in the Desert? What part?
Kique
You get a bear yet?? Works got me tied up, My season is turning out to be a weekend hunt if i'm lucky....
We hit the desert for our HoneyMoon, in late August of 2004....we explored a lot of AZ (some New Mexico)....mostly, south of Tuscon...slightly east and south of the border.
You have some great pics.....thanks for sharing...
It is an incredibly peaceful place....loved the san pedro river area...can't remember the trees...but they were huge.....cottonwood, maybe???
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HoundGirl
The River valley you talk about. It runs north and when it hits Mammoth, it is about 1/4 mile from my moms place. The picture you took above looks to be somewhere close to Tombstone, but more than likely Between Sierra vista and Bisbee. Right?
The town of Agua Prieta in Sonora is where I still have family. it is a neat town. Wayyy bigger than I remember it going down as a child. Did you get down that way?
Kique
I am very fortunate to have the chance to hunt and guide in the desert. The best experience in my life. I have a lot to be thankful for.
I leave these people everytime I go on a hunt. They are the two most special people in my life.
![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/member_images//856230-DSCN0349.JPG)
Here is a picture of the three of us on our Aniversary last August.
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I thank them for the chance to still do what I do and for the patience they BOTH have with me being gone so much during the fall.
Well we hit 714 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Congradulation this thread hit 714!! I mean 715 Now.
We were in Seirra Vista, and we were leading bird trips...lol...to fund our HoneyMoon <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. The tours sucked....but it gave us the time/$$$$ to explore the other areas, in the pics I posted...and I want to go back....and we covered a lot of crazy landscape, in the time we were there...it was a GREAT time that we still chat up.....
You have a beautiful family, and it is nice to see a man appreciate his family!! Good for you!!
Do you do any herp'in, down there??
HoundGirl
Okay we've eclipsed Babe Ruth....next is Hank Aaron at 755...then there is a Japanese league player (I'll have to look up his name) with like 856 or there abouts.....we can do it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
I am very fortunate to have the chance to hunt and guide in the desert. The best experience in my life. I have a lot to be thankful for.
I leave these people everytime I go on a hunt. They are the two most special people in my life.
Here is a picture of the three of us on our Aniversary last August.
I thank them for the chance to still do what I do and for the patience they BOTH have with me being gone so much during the fall.
Well we hit 714 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Nice Lookin family Enrique. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Okay we've eclipsed Babe Ruth....next is Hank Aaron at 755...then there is a Japanese league player (I'll have to look up his name) with like 856 or there abouts.....we can do it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
The Japanese Player's name is Sadaharu Oh. He played from 1959-1981 for the Yomiuri Giants and hit 868 Home Runs.
HBB
were the fields a little shorter there?
SHUCKS!! Can't say he was on steriods. He was from Japan not china, rats. Then again he's not from the US either. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB thanks for the kind words. I feel very lucky. Thank god for that.
Well since we hit the magic number. I don't know if I should keep posting pictures or go to a different thread and play there? Hard to say. Maybe I'll go photo tomorrow and share what I got. We'll see.
Good night ya'll I have a 4:15 wake up and its almost 10.
Kique
We took the rug-rats out one morning a few weeks back and caught a few dolphin. That night we cranked up the grill and ate like kings. Dolphin, melts in your mouth!!!
That dang sure better have been tuna-free dolphin!
well, this thread officially sucks, about 550 posts ago
dude,
what the heck happened to the mauser guy??
round 2?
Is it posssible that he is still PLEASURING himself while looking at Sticks picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've that "power"....................(laffin' here)
And I can't wanna know where Brad's hands are,when he eyes my Post count.............................
It's "Stick Envy" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
were the fields a little shorter there?
Possibly a shorter field, the seasons are a bit shorter (120-140 games vs 162) but based on the information I've seen he was the model of consistency. For 13 straight seasons (1964-1977) he hit no fewer than 45 HR's per year. I think the less than MLB quality pitching probably played a major role too and Oh was fairly large for a Japanese player (5'11 175lbs) so he could generate some power. I read some comments from MLB pitchers who made an All-Star tour of Japan in the 1970's who felt that Oh had the talent to be an impact player in the States.
HBB
I thought Pitching Woo,was the great Chinese Baseball Star?............................
I thought Pitching Woo,was the great Chinese Baseball Star?............................
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Knocka Homa is pretty good too.
HBB
Just can't help it.
One more picture for ya'll. This is 24hourcampfire's very own akjeff and his sonora Mexico mule deer. The guy in camo holding the great fujinon 15x60's is yours truly.
enjoy......
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Nice buck, but you all have an awful serious look on your faces.
Where's the smiles? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
prison photo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
depressed deer with no life left in him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Please make this stop!!!!!!
why......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Cool pics Enrique. Nice family pard.
Mac
Someone beat me too it but I think that fella found "elmo" and is busy with the Jurgens.
Mac
Still rolling with no end in sight......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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And this thread's count. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Well ... I have something to add ... I just got off the phone with McMillan ... and my stock shipped out on May 12 ... and is slated for delivery via Brown sometime tomorrow ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
We'll see how bad they messed it up when I get it ..................... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
<more news later, as it develops>
This thread is losing monentum and may never reach 755 to tie Hamering Hank Aaron
Well, time to pick up the pace, is it not? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Seems we can agree on this one... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Only 11 more to go...then its on to Sadaharu Oh at 868 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Wow, this thread is taking on a life of it's own. Will it continue until the original stock problem is resolved? "Only the shadow knows".
Wow, this thread is taking on a life of it's own. Will it continue until the original stock problem is resolved? "Only the shadow knows".
I thought it was, Rick ordered Chuck a new stock!
'resolution' is when the new stock arrives ... but there-in lies another problem ... the rifle is shooting lights out right now, with the "broken" stock ... Rick has said he's gonna get chuck the new stock and send it to him, no matter what ... Chuck is gonna be forced to decide which he's keeping ...
In a few months, we're gonna have a whole 'nuther situation to deal with .......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
ps. as stated previously, my A5 is gonna be back in my hands, barring Brown making a huge mistake ... hopefully that will have a happy ending?............. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I was going to edit my previous post ... but decided that I'd help beat Bonds to the record ... so here's the skinny on the delivery, from Brown's website ...
SHREVEPORT, LA, US
05/16/2006 8:55 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
05/16/2006 4:00 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
MESQUITE, TX, US
05/16/2006 12:45 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
05/16/2006 11:13 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
EL PASO, TX, US
05/15/2006 7:30 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
05/15/2006 5:28 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
PHOENIX, AZ, US
05/15/2006 3:22 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
PHOENIX, AZ, US
05/12/2006 10:56 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 05/12/2006 5:38 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED
It's already here in Louisiana ................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> [color:"blue"] [/color]
Thumbs up
Wow, this thread is taking on a life of it's own. Will it continue until the original stock problem is resolved? "Only the shadow knows".
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Only five more to go.
We can do it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
One of these days,I'll freak you boys out and we'll assemble the Full McMillan Deal. All the Paradise Faction and their beloved handles.
I swear,you'll [bleep].
While I,like the rest of the troupe,wouldn't be pizzed if McMillan handles came without a tariff...there ain't nobody sending them back.
Am thinking I got me both a figurative and literal iteration there...................
I'm looking forward to that picture....Grin..
One of these days,I'll freak you boys out and we'll assemble the Full McMillan Deal. All the Paradise Faction and their beloved handles.
That's a picture I'd love to see <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
HBB
What the heck.. I'll post one more so we can tie Hammerin Hank....
Lookout Sadaharu Oh <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
HEY BIG DICK....or is it big stick........anyway.....iv read this thread and came to the conclusion that u think us canucks are somewhat beneath you.... u are the chozin one.....the canuck boys i know could out hunt u and your 100ish perfecly tuned.....unscrached....tackdrivin.....miltary arsenal with a wornout....cracked stock.....303. id love to be a fly on the wall if u got jacked around...u sound like a mummas boy...AAAAAAAAA!...............oya........im to stupid to spell. my first and last post.........se ya in the bush????
Now wasn't that special!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Let me be the first to say goodbye... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
'boots,
Your anatomical presumptions,exceed your mind reading abilities.
To coddle your senses,I've a 303 SMELLY and it's stock is cracked,very scratched and couldn't drive a 55gallon drum,despite being fielded in the Military.
My Canuckial reservations,are well founded........................
Canuckial reservations........................
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
(Technical Term)....................
Stick, it would appear that you have another friend. But with only 1 post I'm thinkin same person/ new name
Maybe it is Mauser and here wore his picture out/needs a new one.
perfecly tuned.....unscrached....tackdrivin.....miltary arsenal
Must be talkin' to the wrong guy. The best one I've seen was rusty and that one was stainless. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I'm still laughin' here .... hardly slept all night, thinking about bushboots' post here .................. and to think some people pay for this kind of comedy?! ........... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
HEY BIG DICK....or is it big stick........anyway.....iv read this thread and came to the conclusion that u think us canucks are somewhat beneath you.... u are the chozin one.....the canuck boys i know could out hunt u and your 100ish perfecly tuned.....unscrached....tackdrivin.....miltary arsenal with a wornout....cracked stock.....303. id love to be a fly on the wall if u got jacked around...u sound like a mummas boy...AAAAAAAAA!...............oya........im to stupid to spell. my first and last post.........se ya in the bush????
Stick...you're the victim of a type-by gumwhippin by the dreaded Canadian Cyber Pansy....you should proceed to the nearest Canadian Consulate, claim Special Victim Status and demand fiscal recompense for this senseless abuse of your Human Rights. Then use the money to buy another McMillan stock <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Check out
this thread. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Get over it people .... let it die ... nothing is gained ... $5 says bushboots is one of you bozos trying to keep abomination to free speech going!!
I would like to sincerely apologize to Rick Bin and Kelly McMillan for starting the rucus that I did here. I posted the thread in question out of complete frusteration for what had transpired.
I truly believe after speaking with both parties that is was intentionally mislead, and maybe I'm completely off base. All I wanted was the product that I ordered in a reasonable amount of time at a fair price and it seemed like that might never happen.
Rick, you know how I felt in private corespondence that we've had, but still recieved conflicting stories in regard to who does the work and who is responsible for that work. I hope that it is a complete inability to understand the situation on my part, and if it is I sincerly apologize. Regardless, I sincerly apologize for the way I handled the situation.
I hope both parties understand my frustration and could see fit to forgive me ( I don't expect it).
I don't want a new stock or money. The stock that I have is completly functional as is and I'm happy with that.
Chuck
A guy can't even make [bleep] like that up..................
I knew I shouldn't of come back to this thread...
Larry, I'm still awaiting your call. Baaaak bak bak.
Remember, that it's a small world, and there are many here that know more about you than you might like. They've been pretty restrained. Maybe do the same.
It's amazing the stuff people feel obligated to divulge when you've seen fit to press this dead issue.
Chuck
I also notice that the continued hekling comes from those thinking they're hidden behind some phony handle.
Dude,I read Sybil,but you've got her beat to hell...................
Looks pretty beat up so far, but apparently the beating is going to continue.
![[Linked Image]](http://www.worldbank.org/html/extdr/kosovo/photos/deadhorse.jpg)
That's one of the funniest and most appropriate things I've seen! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I still say a guy's got the right to expect what he pays for.
The customer's always right or something like that!
Bring in more horses! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
The Pony Express didn't whip thier horses this hard!! takin guesses on how long this pony will be beaten <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
whump, whump, whack, whack, .......................YEAH, YEAH....
Anyone looking for a deer hunt in October, December or january? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
I have October Coues hunts open in AZ, and also a couple in November.
I have Coues deer in Sonora in December and January and also Desert Muley (Huge muley's) in January.
Contact me if anyone is interested. If you want to see some pics, take a look at all the nice animals we have killed on this thread. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Kique
'boots,
Your anatomical presumptions,exceed your mind reading abilities.
To coddle your senses,I've a 303 SMELLY and it's stock is cracked,very scratched and couldn't drive a 55gallon drum,despite being fielded in the Military.
My Canuckial reservations,are well
founded........................
Hey, some of us are alright, Geesh, you almost hurt my last feeling. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
well well well ... whatta ya know? I got my stock back from McMillan today ... and low and behold ... IT'S RIGHT ! Who in the hell would have though, after all this, that McMillan could turn out a stock that's worthy of praise? ............... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Crazy, how things can turn out ... Pictures later ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Chuck and any others considering posting personal information about others...
It is very poor form to post personal information about anyone else... As such it will be deleted when discovered. It is also very poor form to threaten same.
I would suggest some folks need to sit back and take a look at what they have posted and decide for themselves if they are putting their best feet forward here. Some surely need to cut their losses...
Some are being really funny and I certainly do not wish to squash anyone's creativity... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Letting the beatings continue...
art <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
well well well ... whatta ya know? I got my stock back from McMillan today ... and low and behold ... IT'S RIGHT ! Who in the hell would have though, after all this, that McMillan could turn out a stock that's worthy of praise? ............... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Crazy, how things can turn out ... Pictures later ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Such blatant audacity, building a stock that's NOT out of the design specification with NO cracked and blemished paint. How dare McMillan do such a thing.
The furor over such a happenstance oughta drive this thread well over 1,000 posts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
80% of the`stuff Lary posts here is "bad form" and he gets away with it handily. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and there are many more than me that are tired of it.
It shouldn't matter what I post if someone has nothing to hide. I guess that isn't the case though. Is it Art.
Chuck
I want to know MGM, do you believe that my stock was delivered in perfect shape the first time? It seems to be what you are implying.
Chuck
I was at the range,with a McMillan stock.
What did I miss?
Did I get away with somethin'?......................
Chuck
You have been here plenty long enough to know little gets censored. Stick writes lots of things I do not like and would not want my kid to read, but he does not threaten others with posting personal info. THAT is where the line is drawn.
What you possibly think you would gain by doing so is completely beyond me, but regardless, it will not be tolerated, by you, by Stick, by anyone.
art
Crazy OMINOUS.
Give or take........................
Now...I can't know,was that "bad form",or just apt?
Thoughts?..........................
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Would like to be a bystander when the doorbell rings...
I see you have started personally atacking me on another thread as well. Good form Art.
I didn't see Art personally attack anyone...just doin' his Moderator job....
I gotta give him credit...
Chuck
Excuse me? I am "personally attacking you on another thread?" Is your name anywhere in any post I have made today, outside this thread? I think not.
art
Would like to be a bystander when the doorbell rings...
+1... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Now, should we start a betting pool?
I'll take ....(oops Bad form)
HBB
I see you have started personally atacking me on another thread as well. Good form Art.
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HBB
Sooooo...lemme get this straight?
If'n my doorbell rings and someone is on the front step,toting a wrong-handed BLOWS and has a poodle stuck in their azz,I can diffuse the situation by handing out Midol?
Sounds easy enough,to moi..................
I knew it, Art's in on it too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> BTW, I noticed a crack in that tusk, must be defective. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
ROTFLMAO. That was just beer spitting funny. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'm crying...........................
Only 65 more and we catch Sadaharu Oh... WE can do it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Chuck's THE man...............
Am thinkin' Chucky might be more appropriate.
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Chuck
Is this what you are referring to?
Well, guess I've heard of it happening, but wouldn't a believed it. I'm sittin' here holding the bolt handle of my recently acquired 700 Stainless in my hand sans bolt. Opened the bolt and it came off in my hand.
Was earlier thinkin' about callin' Rick Bin to check on the status of a Mickey stock, so it musta been his fault. Unfortunately, I called the local remington authorized dealer and they said to bring it right in and they'd repair it under warranty.
Am now wondering if this thread will reach 700+ posts?
Do you guys think remington is out to get me?
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Just let Rick know what happened... It might not be his fault... But he WILL make it right with you!
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Let me get this straight... A known quantity, Rick, is named as the source of the problem in Mtnmn1's post and I respond as I did that Rick, with a proven record of making things right with EVERYBODY, would certainly make it right with him and I am somehow "personally attacking you?"
What if I had said send it to Doug? He fixes problems he does not cause regularly, would that have been a personal attack against you?
Time to dust that chip off the shoulder.
art
And yard the pooch,outta the azz.................
Damn Art, now I know my post will never hit 700+ posts... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY!
Chuck,
The Paranoia runs deep doesn't it?
HBB
Damn Art, now I know my post will never hit 700+ posts... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY!
+1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Please tell me that wasn't directed at me.
Who exactly are you trying to flatter?
I could ask you the same question. Or do we really want to get into that? Oh wait, that's right you'll delete it. Stick close to the computer to catch it quick.
Maybe it really shoulda been Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
man good thing the local stop and rob had alaskan amber on sale, this will get good here soon i am sure
Somehow the lines of Monty Python's lumberjack song come to mind, but I'm thinking it's not the lumberjack that has the panties on.
I phoned in an order to Momma,so as to save myself the trip.
I'll resist the urge to crack myself up,but sometimes I'm powerless..............................
Good part of city life is Costco only carries Amber by the case. Might have to crack one myself when I get home.
Maybe it really shoulda been Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Was this reference too vague? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Who's ready for more pictures? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
This is getting deep and we'll I love posting picture of the hunts and the desert which I love so much.
Let me know when you want to see more. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
I'm ready for some more pictures...just no dead horses, we got enuff of them already <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Might as insert an urban legend foto to keep with the theme:
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It's been known to work.
Brother Bill gets back tonight,so I'd imagine there will be some Bear Hunting and Steelhead Fishing to do,in these parts...............................
Somehow the lines of Monty Python's lumberjack song come to mind, but I'm thinking it's not the lumberjack that has the panties on.
For the edification of the masses:
The Lumberjack Song HBB
Here is the coues deer I took in mexico last year.
Broken it scores 89 and if he was all there he'd be between 105 and 110. Just my luck the buck had to be broken. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Happy with him anyways. The mexicans made us a nice meal with the backstraps. never forget that one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Nice lookin buck. Glad he tasted good too. The eatin is always my favorite part of the hunt <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Was he taken in Sonora?
And what rifle(s) do you favor for Coues Deer?
HBB
Big Stick ... thanks again for your help today ... washers work as expected, and CJ and I will finish the job proper, when we hook up later ...
for now, I have to wait until tomorrow to take a picture of the completed rifle, in all it's glory ... McMillan stock and all ........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
but for now, I'll list specs, down to the last detail ...
Min. SAAMI spec chambered .223rem
Rem700 ss sa right hand .378" bolt face, trued/squared ... factory recoil lug, trued ... PacNor SS SuperMatch varmint contour bbl twisted 1:9", 3 lands/grooves, 11 degree target crown, finished @ 24" ... factory ss trigger, stoned/tuned to 2# crisp ... Williams one-piece floorplate w/ combat latch finished in black teflon ... McMillan A5 stock - 60/20/20 black/od/lt.gray - heavy filled, presentation pad, three stainless studs in the usual configuration ... TPS 20MOA alloy base ... TPS TSR alloy rings ... USO contoured bubble level ... Leupold M1 3.5-10x40 LR/T mildot with butler creeks ... Harris 9-13" swivel bipod ... Uncle Mikes 3-point 1-1/4" wide sling ... Eagle stock pack in OD ... and, a ScoreHigh single shot follower insert ...
There ... I think that's everything ... wow, how dumb am I to build a custom rifle using a SUCKS action, McMillan stock, and Leupold scope??? I must be insane ........... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Sounds Sweet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
But U did Forget One Thing. Its not a .223 AI <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
HBB,
Yep the buck came from Sonora off one of the ranches that I realized is probably my favorite.
As far as rifles, This buck was taken with a 25-06. We took two bucks with this rifle. Preformance was great.
I really like magnum rifles. The 300 win mag is probably my all time favorite for coues. Not because its better, but because I like the bullet choices and different uses for the rifle.
The Rifles I favor the most are: 300 mag (any), 7mm mag (any), 270 (any), 25-06. Any of those rifle equiped with a 3x9 scope or better, and you have a great coues gun. I have used them all, including the 308 and the 243, but the above are the ones I think are better for the task.
Kique
That bear almost looks bigger than the one DFC shot!! ....
now we got pantyless pirates .... let's hope their not butt pirates ....
and Enrique has to bring Mexicans into the equations .... don't you know its all the Mexicans fault??? If there wasn't Mexicans in AZ, then Chuck's stock would work fine ..... damn it!! (my wife's family is Mexican, and the eats do kick booty (except for something called minudo?? ... I'm not that brave))
How bout tripos? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Ain't sure what that is ... but I can guess. Hopefully it will be awhile until I'm offered that delicacy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Hey!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Leave the Mexicans out of this. Its not their fault they makethe stocks Americans don't make. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
And Menudo is the BOMB!!! One of my favorite meals. I am only lucky enough to eat it twice a year. Christmas and New years. Served with Tamales, beans and Rice. It will knock your socks off. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Eat this:
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The above is how the ranchers took care of the meat.
Kique
Trick is to start off with several Negro Modelos then the menudo and tripos ain't too bad.
Done right, tamales might be one of the best meals in the world. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> A little habanero sauce don't hurt either. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Damn, I'm gettin' hungry...
I just wanna get the title of this thread back to what it was ... it's TOO good to be called something else .................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Someone asked "what are tripas?"
They are cow intestines. The utter intestines if I am not mistaken. We call them "tripas de Leche" and they eat well if cooked properly.
Kique
Not too bad fried. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
HBB,
Yep the buck came from Sonora off one of the ranches that I realized is probably my favorite.
As far as rifles, This buck was taken with a 25-06. We took two bucks with this rifle. Preformance was great.
I really like magnum rifles. The 300 win mag is probably my all time favorite for coues. Not because its better, but because I like the bullet choices and different uses for the rifle.
The Rifles I favor the most are: 300 mag (any), 7mm mag (any), 270 (any), 25-06. Any of those rifle equiped with a 3x9 scope or better, and you have a great coues gun. I have used them all, including the 308 and the 243, but the above are the ones I think are better for the task.
Kique
Kique,
I really like and have whacked whitetails with all your caliber choices.
The .300 Win. Magnum (I just love the way a .300 folds up a whitetail<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) was my go to gun for a long time until my recent affair (lust) with the .280 AI.
I also have a big soft spot for the .25/06. And the .270 was my first really super accurate "big game" rifle after I learned the ropes with a 6MM Remington, so it will always remain one of my favorites.
Another recent gun love is the .300 RUM. Just like the .300 Winny except super-sized <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'd also bet chasing Coues deer in Sonora [ Aside from the differences in elevation and size of the territory.] [Additionally, no I'm not saying its a direct apples to apples comparison for those of you who are humorless. I'm saying its not completely alien in concept] isn't totally unlike chasing whitetails in the hills of NC and SW VA.
Contrary to popular belief, you can hunt deer here without staying in the thick timber or ridin a treestand if you don't mind doing some humpin in the mountains.
In places (i.e ridgetop to ridgetop or across cutovers) we can also get some long shots and glassing is useful too.
The coues and our deer also appear to be comparable in size. Though ours may be just a bit larger on average.
Great pictures and interesting information.
Thanks for sharing,
HBB
thread name .... again .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Persistant ain't ya <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Only 28 more posts to go <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Incidentally, how many goals did Wayne Gretszky (sp?) score in his career?
Perhaps we should make this number our next post count goal in honor of the Canadian spirit of this thread
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
thread name .... again .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Canuckian Ruminations on the Proper Building of Synthetic Rifle Stocks With an Appendix on Customer Service and Enlightened Communications <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
On WGM's behalf I'm changin' the title one more time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and Gretzky scored 1016 total and 894 season
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
On WGM's behalf I'm changin' the title one more time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and Gretzky scored 1016 total and 894 season
Wow,
Less than 200 to go. We oughtaa make it by Midnight <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Back to Enrique's choices, I'm hot for the 257 Weatherby lately. Just love what that bad boy will do with the 100 TSX's. May take the ride to CO this fall as backup for Muleys and Elk if I get drawn... Gotta imagine it would be stong juju for Coues as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
How's that for a name change???
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Heck yes!! I have not used the 257 Roy, but have heard great things and am excited that one of my hunters this year is bringing his 257 Roy to AZ on a hunt this fall (hopefully).
Also remember just because I don't consider it as a favorite doesn't mean it doesn't work. I just favor some over others.
heck you ought to come Coues hunting with me sometime. We'll put that 257 to work on pint size deer.
Can you hit an 6 to 8 inch vital at say 500/600 yards? We can get you closer, just curious what you'd say. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
Kique
1-ish to 1.5MOA ain't much of a stretch.....................
Nevewr had much opportunity to try. Can generally hold MOA at 200, so am guessin' it's just more of the same. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Course, if you can, I'm guessin' I'd be more comfortable gettin' closer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Workin' on a Colorado Muley and Elk hunt this year, but might have to talk about it next year. What's the season on Coues?
BTW, once you try the Roy you may add it to the list of favorites.
Closer is always better thats for sure. I'd rather have someone shoot 200 yards than 400+ yards.
AZ coues deer run in October (27- nov 1), November (10-19) and December (15?-31).
Sonora, the hunts are in December and January.
Kique
i think the name of this thread should be changed to "yo momma."
might get on mtv ...
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HBB
i think the name of this thread should be changed to "yo momma."
might get on mtv ...
Your wish is my command .... I still think is should be entitled the "cesspool of all threads" ....
It seems that there is a bunch of
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Around here. What do you think? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Pertaining to the name of this thread. Are you as confussed as this little guy who thinks he's a cow and hangs out with them around a road?
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Kique
looks like an easy shot to me ...
just kidding.
i think the name of this thread should be changed to "yo momma."
might get on mtv ...
Your wish is my command .... I still think is should be entitled the "cesspool of all threads" ....
I keep trying, but Enrique keeps changing it back!
It's an accident. Everytime I post something I am usually a step behind. So it goes back to the original. Sorry guys. I think i'll get it right this time.
Has yo momma ever seen one of these? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Hey I figure I gotta try something. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
All too far over the top for what really transpired, and I need to get my count up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Plus Big Stick will see we are not a bad bunch and he must of missed my other post.
Which I have included here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Quote:
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'boots,
Your anatomical presumptions,exceed your mind reading abilities.
To coddle your senses,I've a 303 SMELLY and it's stock is cracked,very scratched and couldn't drive a 55gallon drum,despite being fielded in the Military.
My Canuckial reservations,are well
founded........................
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Hey, some of us are alright, Geesh, you almost hurt my last feeling. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Hey guys,
Did we pass Ho chi min already? If we did, who's next?
Kique
Has yo momma ever seen one of these? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Is that critter a coatimundi (sp ?)?
HBB
Hey guys,
Did we pass Ho chi min already? If we did, who's next?
Kique
1 post away from tying
.... and Wayne Gretzky is next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Pertaining to the name of this thread. Are you as confussed as this little guy who thinks he's a cow and hangs out with them around a road?
Kique
Beef. It's what's for dinner! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
You are correct!! It is a coatimundi. Has yo momma seen one?
Kique
Did we pass Ho chi min already?
That is tff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Oh yeah, name change again...
Another worthless McMillan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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Give us the specs. Will that thing shoot, or does the stock present too tall a hurdle?
Looks KS Mountain-ish..................
Well theres a slight run in the paint and it has caused a lot of disstress. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It shoots .5- .75 with just about anything you can feed it. This one belongs to the misses. I keep trying to claim it but no luck yet.
YUP 700 KS MTN 270 win. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Never heard of it......................(grin)
yo momma might be able to get that to shoot. Heck yo momma may have even made that stock. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Check out all these antlers/mounts:
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I did have a bowl of menudo up here, for the life of me I don't recall where, I think someone brought it to a potluck. Pretty good stuff all things considered.
That said, a pollo torta or carne asada tacos are more my style, specially with a carte blanca or modelo negro.
Before I forget. If anyone is looking for a home in Tucson check out our website at
www.ctucsonhomes.comWe'd be more than happy to help you with any real estate needs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
You could even bring yo Momma <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
You are correct!! It is a coatimundi. Has yo momma seen one?
Kique
Only at the zoo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I think.
HBB
theres a slight run in the paint
And you're not ready to publicly flagellate McMillan's business practices or at least scalp somebody in their paint department...Man some people will put up with anything <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
my momma ain't seen one, nor would she like to see one- except as a stole or coat.
har.
a coat made out of coatimundi fur ... coat-coatimundi?
or coatimundi-squared?
Its cool to see them in the wild. You are glassing and you start seeing tails in the grass sticking up. You usually see one, then before you know it theres 10/15 tails in the air. Its cool.
Kique
Nice looking club you got there Stetson!
Too bad it's in an obsolete cartridge that's inadequate for anything but small deer inside 200 yards!
There, is that good for a couple more posts? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Probably woulda shot in the .2's if it weren't for that run.
Too good at this Stick... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Are we close to Wayne G. Yet? how many more?
Anyone looking for a home in Tucson AZ or a hunt in AZ or Mexico, contact me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Here is what another poster thinks about my rig. I'll try not to loose any sleep tonight while I'm whinning about the run in the paint. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
"As for your rig, I'd say that the mounting system you chose is a complete abortion".
Don't forget to mention it's mounted with one of thoose over weight over priced Euro hubble telescopes with the silly 30mm tube. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
You know a good way to paint a stock?
Drive to the ghetto part of your town, put the stock against a clean wall and by Morning some thug or gang banger will have graffiti'd(sp) it. Then you know you have a custom unique paint job on your stock. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Then again some bum might steal it and use it for fire wood or something. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Are we close to Wayne G. Yet? how many more?
About 125 more. Should get there about supper time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
There's only one way I would paint a stock and that's with a Rickasso. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Its cool to see them in the wild. You are glassing and you start seeing tails in the grass sticking up. You usually see one, then before you know it theres 10/15 tails in the air. Its cool.
Kique
Are these critters kin to a Meerkat?
I would/could,side with the mount desription......................
Damn 3/4" rifle. Am guessin' you've be happy to be rid of the embarrassment. Probably best to blame your wife as it's her rig. Bad paint, worse mounts, definitely a woman's gun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
yup but there is a story there. Momma has vision problems right at dusk/dawn so the scope got scootched back to fit her. The whole rig got purchased a week before we went boo hunting after her MKV took a crap in a big way. The offsets were all they had in stock so I ran with them. The gun shoots and balances so well I hate to mess with it if it ain't broke.
Whataya think BS? LW Talleys or just med Leupys???
Damn 3/4" rifle. Am guessin' you've be happy to be rid of the embarrassment. Probably best to blame your wife as it's her rig. Bad paint, worse mounts, definitely a woman's gun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
LMAO Well thats my excuse and I'm stickin to it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
The trouble with 30mm tubes in general,is that there isn't much offered in the way of mounting them low and snug.
I'd love to see LW's offered in 30mm low.
Would also like to see an LW "Tactical" Theme,sorta a homogenous IBA-ish system in 30mm that would mount a 40mm objective low and with 20MOA inclination. The 1pc base/homogenous rings,coupled with 4 fasteners,would be SWEET.
Until then,I'd prolly go DD posilign.........................
Poor rifle..... it deserves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Ok Ok Ok I'll change the bases and rings. Geez . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Don't try to talk me into puttin up a photo of my 270 Roy with the 3.4-14x52 AO LPS. Now there's a monster. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Here's a DD posilign 1pc base setup,on one of my Model Sevens.
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If Talley duped that,with homogenous design and 20MOA,I'd have 'em on everything.
Especially in LOW........................
I have a question. Did it seem to anyone else that Chuck was operated remotely by some Bozeman Burger Baron Button Basher and that that button pusher got really quiet all of a sudden? Does anyone else besides me wonder why? Maytag
Its cool to see them in the wild. You are glassing and you start seeing tails in the grass sticking up. You usually see one, then before you know it theres 10/15 tails in the air. Its cool.
Kique
Are these critters kin to a Meerkat?
coati's are cousins to coons
meerkats is cousins to mongooses
not terribly closely related but sorta are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Its cool to see them in the wild. You are glassing and you start seeing tails in the grass sticking up. You usually see one, then before you know it theres 10/15 tails in the air. Its cool.
Kique
Are these critters kin to a Meerkat?
coati's are cousins to coons
meerkats is cousins to mongooses
not terribly closely related but sorta are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Okay, I see now. A coati is really a Mexi-coon <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
[Okay, I know its terrible but give me a break, its better than a picture of another dead horse]HBB
Maintian, Steady as she goes
'tag,
Elaborate,I can't know whatcha mean.....................(grin)
I'm hijacking this thread
I'm hijacking this thread
Okay, where we goin now?
HBB
Hopefully on a deer hunt in Sonora or Arizona with Enrique's Trophy Hunts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Huge Sonora Desert Muley's and coues deer. Great Arizona hunts aswell. You've seen the pictures. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
I have a question. Did it seem to anyone else that Chuck was operated remotely by some Bozeman Burger Baron Button Basher and that that button pusher got really quiet all of a sudden? Does anyone else besides me wonder why? Maytag
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Yeh....He's MIA and likely WIA <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Keep a tight rien on her men I'm turning in
Hopefully on a deer hunt in Sonora or Arizona with Enrique's Trophy Hunts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Huge Sonora Desert Muley's and coues deer. Great Arizona hunts aswell. You've seen the pictures. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
From your lips to God's ears <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
HBB
It sounded good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Is dem scritches an scratches from takin' that model 7 outa the glass case? That pristine arsenal is lookin' a bit rugged.
Hopefully on a deer hunt in Sonora or Arizona with Enrique's Trophy Hunts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Huge Sonora Desert Muley's and coues deer. Great Arizona hunts aswell. You've seen the pictures. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Kique...you forgot about showing homes in Tucson. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Bump.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
(1000 posts, anyone?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />)
The mother of all post and all is well, Carry on men
I'm hijacking this thread
![[Linked Image]](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/JeffP/MonicaH.gif)
I'm hijacking this thread
This is by far the best twist this thread has taken thus far.
Where did you find such a trophy and what was her score ?
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Monica Hansen
50% Brazilian 50% Norwegian 100% PERFECT..............
Is that from the Bone & Crotchet club trophy list? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Monica Hansen
50% Brazilian 50% Norwegian 100% PERFECT..............
Kinda reminds me of my second wife....
The trouble with 30mm tubes in general,is that there isn't much offered in the way of mounting them low and snug.
I'd love to see LW's offered in 30mm low.
Would also like to see an LW "Tactical" Theme,sorta a homogenous IBA-ish system in 30mm that would mount a 40mm objective low and with 20MOA inclination. The 1pc base/homogenous rings,coupled with 4 fasteners,would be SWEET.
Until then,I'd prolly go DD posilign.........................
Stick,
No 20 MOA base, but this is about as low and tight as I could get with a 30mm tube. You do have a point.
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/TEVANS/300.jpg)
Is that from the Bone & Crotchet club trophy list? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Now dats funny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
that ain't nobody's momma.
so what's she doing here?
yo momma ... if that's yo momma, you ain't old enough to use a keyboard.
yeah but i would not kick her out of bed for eating graham crackers and drinking lucky lager
Fish
I would not care If that's your/my momma, I'd still be breast feeding............
I just got an email from Talley. One piece LW 30mm talleys are now available in low and medium for the 700 SUCKS. I think I need medium still for the 700 KS with the 3-12x50 swaro. What says the crowd???
you are naughty boys. yo mommas would whup you good if they saw you typing stuff like that ...
Velvet lined,glass case.
I shot that rifle pretty much as my "main" 223AI,for quite a spell and The Boy grew up on it too. Would like to know it's round count. Sister is on it now and it's still goin'.
It's on it's 3rd or 4th coat of matte black BBQ Krylon.
The uppermost rifles flutes are getting rusty,the polished tube is horribly haggard with scratches,dents,bruises and I should send it to George for a KungFu shifter and a matte coating job on all the metal. Also need to yard that POS 4.5-14x off there and go back to 3.5-10x M1 with Badger's.
Secondhand Rose has rust on it's receiver and a veddy veddy nice gouge in it's shifter. It's belly is getting chewed too.
Sporty Spice's matte bead job,looks like [bleep] and it's HS bottom like I threw it out the crummy window,while doing 50. I always was a sucker for a 2-point field rest,it's a weakness of mine.
Prolly the Urban A2 is in the best shape,if only because it ain't that handy to yard around. Mebbe if they were all 18lbs,they'd be as purty?!?(grin)
Today looks to be a nice shooting day,mebbe me and JugHead will get crackin' and start scritchin'/scratchin'............................
That's my main 30mm bitch.
One can't get 'em mounted low enough......................
lemme know when ya wanna throw that POS 4.5x14 away, I got an empty trashcan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Might poke it on my Anschutz 54,for [bleep] and giggles.......................
Might make cat hunting at 400 yds interesting. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
reckon how many clicks to bring up a 22 lr to 400? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I'll letcha know on the come ups,after their determination.................
Couple of casualties from my POS Micky stock'd 300 Winnie.....
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p1d7ca09f9e63e0dd61b51aff0869a7ad/fa8d68bd.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/pc393f4db1291501e5472447af34aba85/f5ea7f85.jpg)
Tony
Appears to work fine.............
Monica Hansen
50% Brazilian 50% Norwegian 100% PERFECT..............
Wonder if one could setup a captive breeding program? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Couple of casualties from my POS Micky stock'd 300 Winnie.....
Tony
Nice bucks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Looks like your rifle works pretty good even if it is wearing one of them nasty old McMillan stocks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Oh C'mon everybody we only need about 57 more for 1K posts. We can do it, yes we can <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Now I know I've missed something here! Someone actualy claimed that ALL "Micky"stocks are P'sOS?.
HBB,
Yea, it works in a pinch....
Anyway, since those casualties, ole betsy got a serious face (shot out the factory tube) lift in the form of a SS, 25", fluted Pac-nor, Zeiss Conquest and it still wears that POS Micky Mtn rifle stock :
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid159/p769a039c6efb9f0c989d4972606d9454/f5024a6e.jpg)
BTW, I found that POS Micky stock in a dumpster, guess no one wants them any more. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Tony
PS: Here is another "dumpster special" Micky :
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid206/p6660b46fff46e5d4e752266e2be5d061/eeecc0bf.jpg)
SS SUCKS 280 DM. in a Micky Mtn rifle stock
I wanta know where you been dumpster divin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Did Ol'Betsy put the what is on the elk and bear too?
And your .280 is also very sweet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Since this post started as Unhappy With Mcmillan and changed to Yo Mamma will it count as the same post when it hits 1000 according to the Guenis Book of Post Records??
HBB,
No, not that elk, but a couple of others.......that particular bull was taken with my 300RUM.
The bear was an archery kill during the Va. archery season a few years ago. I have taken 4 Va. bears: two with a bow and two with a rifle. The two rifle kills were with the above pictured 280 and the other one this past season, with my late fathers Pre-64 '06 :
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid197/pb7e769b8b4cbe88994db83944e2df1e7/f1062068.jpg)
We have a bunch of bears running around our hunt club. Plus, I primarily hunt on the edge of a swamp where they frequently pass thru.
Va. gives you archery, muzzleloader and 1/2 of rifle to take a bear. They all were taken while deer hunting (primarily), except the last one, which I went out of my way to look for. He was the one who bit my trailcam, trashed my 4 wheeler seat as well as two other 4 wheelers and three tree stands.
![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid191/p1c8f120473075821ae25378f871b319c/f1de56b8.jpg)
Here is the perp in action on my trailcam......
Tony
PS: the dumpster's location is top secret....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Nice bears <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
That one bear had atrocious table manners. Didn't he know that eatin a trailcam would give him gas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Since this post started as Unhappy With Mcmillan and changed to Yo Mamma will it count as the same post when it hits 1000 according to the Guenis Book of Post Records??
Sure will...no penalty (I don't think I could survive another 1,000 poster:p) for a Thread Name Change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
HBB,
Yea, he got gas allright....he ate three 150gr Speer Grand Slams @ about 3000fps MV.
Pepto wasn't going to help him either !
Tony
I'd LOVE to shoot a bear like that..Even if I didn't have a McMillan stocked rifle!!<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Mike
Glad to see this thread turn civil..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Was getting pretty ugly there.
Tony
Since this post started as Unhappy With Mcmillan and changed to Yo Mamma will it count as the same post when it hits 1000 according to the Guenis Book of Post Records??
Sure will...no penalty (I don't think I could survive another 1,000 poster:p) for a Thread Name Change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
How's that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
badger
HBB,
Yea, he got gas allright....he ate three 150gr Speer Grand Slams @ about 3000fps MV.
Pepto wasn't going to help him either !
Tony
Methinks it was lead poisoning, not gas that did him in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
And she is still rolling along
shhh!
don't tell momma! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Is that from the Bone & Crotchet club trophy list? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
No, it is from BONER and CROTCHET club trophy list.
No questions asked, straight to the taxidermist for a MOUNTING
Did I mention that I was a taxidermist? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Did I mention that I was a taxidermist? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
LAUGHIN <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Did I mention that I was a taxidermist? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
+10... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Several years ago, a very attractive young lady introduced herself to me and two buddies. She said " High, my name is Vickie and I'm a taxidermist." All three of us were thinking " High Vickie, mount me". Too bad her husband was right beside of her.
Dave.
Several years ago, a very attractive young lady introduced herself to me and two buddies. She said " High, my name is Vickie and I'm a taxidermist." All three of us were thinking " High Vickie, mount me". Too bad her husband was right beside of her.
Dave.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Oh no not another name change..............
man this chit just will not go away, through 4 name changes, enruques pics and several varied topics still she rolls
Seriously ... when a thread truly takes on a life of it's own, I think people just start posting in it because they know people will be reading it ... it kind of ensures that the post will be read, regardless of content ...
but with this thread, I wouldn't discount the desire of people to see this one set a new record in amount of posts for a single thread ...
ps: 33 more posts until 1,000 .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Only 32 to 1k <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Well I for one think this is truly a waste of cyberspace and I will not be caught up in a shallow attempt at blatant uping of ones post count.
Nor will I encourage this post to continue any longer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Well I for one think this is truly a waste of cyberspace and I will not be caught up in a shallow attempt at blatant uping of ones post count.
Nor will I encourage this post to continue any longer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Well said <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Another Thread Jacking:
A GUN EVERY RIFLE LOONEY NEEDS And its Canadian built too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Only 26 more to 1K. We'll make it yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
I am afraid to help this thread with hillbillybear on cause he will end up helping me to spend more money. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I am afraid to help this thread with hillbillybear on cause he will end up helping me to spend more money. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I try to help where I can <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Damn, the length of Pull is too long, where's that hacksaw.
on the other hand, am guessin' the lop will get shorter after it's fired a few times. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Damn, the length of Pull is too long, where's that hacksaw.
the long lop is to give the recoil a running start <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
on the other hand, am guessin' the lop will get shorter after it's fired a few times. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Actually, after about 3 shots the recoil from the .600 will create a divot in your shoulder large enuff to better accomodate the long LOP.
Its a new concept in gunsmithing. Instead of fitting the stock to the shooter, the rifle fits the shooter to the stock. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Only 16 more <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Cain't imagine how much this damned thing would cost if it had a McMillan on it... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Cain't imagine how much this damned thing would cost if it had a McMillan on it... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
At least a 50% markup <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Yeah, but it probably wouldn't shoot.
topic change, only because it NEEDS to read with the original thread title when it reaches 1k ...
I can't see the point in changing thread names....I prefer they remain the same, all the way along.....
topic change, only because it NEEDS to read with the original thread title when it reaches 1k ...
You're right...let's see if I can remember. McMillan stocks suck because their paint is off, they scratch too easy, and their customer service makes certain Canadians whine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
HBB
I think that we should go back to the original title
What do you guys think about ataying with the the original title when she hits 1000??
What do you guys think about staying with the the original title when she hits 1000??
I agree ... I've been changing it back the entire time ... it's somewhat confusing to change the thread title ... not sure why people do it ....
only a few more posts to go people ...
Unhappy With McMillan for the 999th time.
HBB
We Dooded It. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
can we NOW have Rick lock this thing down ???
We Dooded It. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Cannot say that I have heard that in a while
can we NOW have Rick lock this thing down ???
Aw, C'mon don't U wanta go for 2,000 posts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Just Kidding <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Okay, enuff is enuff somebody please put this thread out of its misery HBB
I thought we needed to catch that hockey guy. Have we done it yet?
If so, How about going for Nolan Ryan's strikeout count? I seriously think we can do it.
We can combine all our photos and all our stories and make this happen. Chances are all our stocks suck anyways seeing they were not bought at K-mart or Walmart. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Lets have some fun guys! Lighten up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
Kique
I thought we needed to catch that hockey guy. Have we done it yet?
If so, How about going for Nolan Ryan's strikeout count? I seriously think we can do it.
We can combine all our photos and all our stories and make this happen. Chances are all our stocks suck anyways seeing they were not bought at K-mart or Walmart. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Lets have some fun guys! Lighten up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Okay U talked me into it. I think 1019 will catch Gretzsky <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Wow this is a lot of post I wonder what kind of a record or if this a record or not???
Still going... (think Energizer)
did y'all tell yo mommas 'bout this accomplishment?
Wow this is a lot of post I wonder what kind of a record or if this a record or not???
If its not the most prolific thread in 24HRCF history, it has to for sure be in the top 5 all time.
HBB
Somebody just needs to play with Stick and that should be good for another couple of hundred posts!
I agree ... I've been changing it back the entire time ... it's somewhat confusing to change the thread title ... not sure why people do it ....
only a few more posts to go people ...
& partially because something so trivial seems to bug the livin' [bleep] outta you .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Soo.......
Is she the hottest thing on this planet???
I can't see the point in changing thread names....I prefer they remain the same, all the way along.....
Ditto the above.
I agree ... I've been changing it back the entire time ... it's somewhat confusing to change the thread title ... not sure why people do it ....
only a few more posts to go people ...
& partially because something so trivial seems to bug the livin' [bleep] outta you .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
prezactly .................... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
If its not the most prolific thread in 24HRCF history, it has to for sure be in the top 5 all time.
Yes, I'm sure RickBin is just overflowing with pride at you fine folks for making this the greatest accomplishment you can achieve with his website. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
If its not the most prolific thread in 24HRCF history, it has to for sure be in the top 5 all time.
Yes, I'm sure RickBin is just overflowing with pride at you fine folks for making this the greatest accomplishment you can achieve with his website. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
How droll, another humorless Canadian <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
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If its not the most prolific thread in 24HRCF history, it has to for sure be in the top 5 all time.
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Not even close ..... This thread only continues b/c of some desire to see it hit a high number of replies and not on any merits of the thread itself. This thread is not really worthy of mention when it comes to content. Perhaps some of Enrique's pics would be the exception.
99% jibberish-but keep it going. Need to go for months and not # of posts.
So what are we up to?
actually, this thread has some use: as a model of what a thread should not be. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Where have I been? Now Im afraid I'll never get caught up. Ive been reading all day, ignoring the links that would take me months to read, and Im only on page 10, with only 11 more to go. Everytime I look up, there's another 2 pgs. Ive had to clean my computer screen many times from the laughter. (I didnt care for the feminine jokes, a bit tasteless, but that's just me.) But the rest was absolutely hilarious.
Can we put this thing on pause, so some of us can catch up?
...gotto go back to reading... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Just think about this a minute.
How many of us are now aquainted with each other because of the B/S of this thread? Before this, many of us never even shared a post with each other much less read what others posted.
So we outta be thanking ole chucky for bringing us all together because of his shinnanigans(sp). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
If this thread did not do this, at least you all had some good pictures to look at. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I think we all learned a good lesson from this post, and can now move on to bigger and better things.
But not before we reach Nolan Ryans strikeout count! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Subject: Obligatory entry just so's I could say I wuz here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Sure would be a shame if that new stock showed up pink........
Pink ain't too bad........................
yah ... I've heard some rumors about a pink rifle that can hold it's own pretty well .................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Would you mind dispensing some scope mount/ring advise on a CZ mod 3? It'll be wearing a VXII 3-9x40.
In reference to my statement about Chucky shinnanigans, I have this to say.
I was wrong for saying so. Sure a lot of people got into a pissing match, and sure the thing got straightened out. But none the less, to call it shinnanigans was wrong of me.
I thought we could laugh about the past, but I guess not! Hell I maybe have been pissed if it happened to me. But at the same time I am a respectable person. I would never have caused this much of a issue.
Chuck had to vent, and he did. For me to call it shinnanigans was a mis statement.
Chuck but next time have some class and deal with the issue off the board. Thanks for the fun though and sorry for the mean thing I called your important issue.
Enrique
Do low end marketing exploits qualify as "shinnanigans"?
It could I guess. Depending how you would look at it.
if it is being done to stop a fight and have fun, then no. But if it is being done intentially as marketing exploits then yes. I'll take the first one and if you feel differently, feel free to let me know.
I mean this thing has changed names, everything in the book has been said, a young lady had to defend her hygiene's honor, a issue got solved, and we hit record numbers. No, No not shinnanigans, just plain out fun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
BTW, did you like the Pictures?
It could I guess. Depending how you would look at it.
if it is being done to stop a fight and have fun, then no. But if it is being done intentially as marketing exploits then yes. I'll take the first one and if you feel differently, feel free to let me know.
I mean this thing has changed names, everything in the book has been said, a young lady had to defend her hygiene's honor, a issue got solved, and we hit record numbers. No, No not shinnanigans, just plain out fun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
BTW, did you like the Pictures?
Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!
Kique,
The pictures were great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and the 350 Canadian is still humorless <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Before I forget. If anyone is looking for a home in Tucson check out our website at
www.ctucsonhomes.comWe'd be more than happy to help you with any real estate needs.
You could even bring yo Momma
Kique
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Enrique O. Ramirez, owner
Enrique's Trophy Hunts
(520) 349-1980
enriquestrophyhunts@hotmail.com
I think you missed "you could even bring your momma." Seeing since the name of the post had changed. I added a twist to the humorous name change. Get it buying a house/ bring yo momma? I think its funny. Plus why not ask the guys if they need help buying a house in the best state to hunt Coues deer, elk ,mule deer, antelope, desert sheep and black bear? If I feel I can help you guys out why not ask?
just me I guess.
Kique
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
who's there? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
BTW, did you like the Pictures?
I liked the pictures, and now I want to go after a big Mule Deer! Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'm going to post to keep the count going. And no thanks, I don't drink coffee.
Another totally frivolous post just to aggravate the humorless Canadian(s) and keep this thread rolling along <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
yo momma would find that funny ...
but then, she is yo momma ...
Don't be too hard on the Canadians, they do make some good beer! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
yo momma would find that funny ...
but then, she is yo momma ...
I'm living proof that my momma has a sense of humor <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Don't be too hard on the Canadians, they do make some good beer! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Man does not live by beer alone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Don't be too hard on the Canadians, they do make some good beer! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
And the Germans taught them how to make it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
HBB
who says?
i say it was the persians who invented beer. maybe the chaldeans.
maybe ...
yo momma.l
Most guys like trouble, as long as it isn't on them..........
AD
who says?
i say it was the persians who invented beer. maybe the chaldeans.
maybe ...
yo momma.l
That explains why the Iranians are being so irrational lately, they 've been drunk for the last 40 centuries <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
I must say Kique, youre a top notch Entrepreneur. Exceptional pictures, promoting your services, hell, even realestate, and all with a sense of humor. Gotta luv it. Youre definitely, "Buena Gente". :cool
maestro
Maestro,
I try my best. most people say I am buena gente. I sure try and live up to it.
A top notch entrepreneur? I am not sure about that. a great one would make a killing when doing business. Me, I like offering hunts at great prices just so I can go hunting. Its not the money but the chance to be out there. When I sell these hunts, I really don't make that much. But what I do make is new friends and hunting partners. To me its worth it all.
With Real estate, thats outta my hands, but I try my hardest and bust my butt off.
My humor, my success, my forwardness, and my life, I can only thank God for that. He's the one that gave it to me, and he can take it back just as quick. I have been very blessed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Thanks for the kind words.
Kique
BTW when do we finish the knock knock joke? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Why the name change to knock knock????
This appears to be losing traction. Enrique it must be time for another picture. How about another one of them cats. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
This appears to be losing traction. Enrique it must be time for another picture. How about another one of them cats. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Cat pictures would be great, but how about a drawing for a free coues deer or muley hunt.... Kique you could always write it off as an advertising expense <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Please...please....please let this thread die.....
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Please...please....please let this thread die.....
NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!!
If I was to do a drawing for a hunt. How would we do it? It would have to be in AZ and contingent on the winner drawing a tag.
I don't know. Maybe Rick could arrange something for us to do for a "contest". Again no promises, but the idea sounds interesting. Heck you guys may get what you wish for. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
There are a bunch of things we could do. How about we change this thread again and start brainstorming ideas for hunting with Enrique? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
Again no promises, but the idea sounds good to me. Lets see what Rick has to say and see what ideas you guys can come up with.
Kique
Oh before I forget.
Orange who?
How about
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Enrique,
Have seen another drawing a while back, and the folks doin' it, just opened a thread and had everyone put their name in. (Only once per person if I recall), and then took all the names and put them in a hat and drew the winner. Sounds like a good idea to me, I'd definitely be up for a hunt drawing if you could make it work. Are there any hunts in AZ that don't require being drawn, such as cats or hogs or somethin' along that line?
AZ has a few non-draw hunting opportunities.
Archery deer, Cats, Bears, and archery fall turkey. If I am not mistaken, those are the only non-draw game big game hunts open in AZ.
The drawing sounds good, but I would like something fun and exciting or something of the sort. However, since that and the pinata are the only options so far, I'll keep that in mind.
Kique
Doc, TTF. I think that dog is missing part of his anatomy...
Where would I be without my morning dose of campfire??
Mntnman,
You any good with a bow? My kids have one from Toys R Us that I can stick the arrow on any window from within 10 feet. Im deadly with it. Other than that, I got a better chance with a spear.
...But I can learn. Does Rick Bin sell compound bows?? (not kidding). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Sounds like you and I could have a pretty good competition. At this point if Enrique tied a coues deer to a tree I'd probably have to beat the damned thing to death with the bow after I ran outa arrows. I haven't shot a bow since I was a kid. I shoot 'em lefty so didn't have many options when I was a kid and sorta never stayed with it. As a result, I'd have to go to walmart to get the one like your kids have to get started again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Like you said though, I'd be willin' to learn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Don't know if I could get good enough to shoot a coues deer at 500 yds with Enrique though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I'm a confirmed bow hater (Too many run ins with Redneck Peckerwood bowhunters <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />) but for a free coues hunt I'd be willing to learn how to shoot one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Look at the hunters campfire thread for the offer I have for 24hourcampfire members. You can thank HBB and the others who asked me to offer a hunt of some sort.
I think what I am offering is a good deal and fair for everyone. Hopefully you all agree with my decision and like what I came up with.
Kique
Hey gang,
If you click here:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...p;page=0#867846you get to the offer I made.
Kique
but for a free coues hunt I'd be willing to learn how to shoot one
Enrique...I heard "FREEEEEEE". In Cali, we're use to receiving welfare. And Im from Cali....So........ I sent you a PM.
Hey what gives, is this post losing momentum??
Hey what gives, is this post losing momentum??
& you had nothing better to do than give it a kick in the a$$ to get it started again????
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'm on board. What do we need to do to get it moving again.
I mean I already posted tons of pictures. I even offered coues deer hunts at incredible prices. Heck I even asked if anyone needed help buying a house in Tucson so they could enjoy the fine hunting of the desert. What else? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I think many would wish it would end, but when and how? I kinda like it. it is like a ton of threads in one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Kique
Hey what gives, is this post losing momentum??
& you had nothing better to do than give it a kick in the a$$ to get it started again????
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
That about sums it up...........
Another gratuitous post for the thread that will not Die <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
Another gratuitous post for the thread that will not Die <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
THANKS.................... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
See we're all on the same wavelength....scary isn't it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
HBB
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HBB
this thread has turned into one long ass post padding session, of course i might could have a few replies here as well.
What has happened I goy up this morning and we are on page 2, OH NO
I think its because people are on vacation due to the holiday. Give it a day and it'll be back to full speed.
Kique
It was over 13 years ago!
Take the fun of it why don’t yah lol
So many posters on this thread that really added value to anything they contributed to.
So many posters on this thread that really added value to anything they contributed to.
Yeah, I can think of a dozen current members that detract with every post.
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