After reading thru the thread tonight, some very interesting discussions..
and some interesting posts by LEOs and former LEOs....
Boomer in your case, is your responses coming from your drinking actually
hurting someone permanently? alot of time around 12 step programs
sure makes me suspect of that...if you posted so, then sorry I missed it..
but that would certainly explain your stance.....
a few posts from Minnesota.....that place is looney tunes on the subject..
Lord knows how many rehab facilities are in the state... the biggest being Hazeltine...
two quick stories of MN and DUIs..
1. Brother in law had worked a 24 hours straight at the Post Office, and he gets home to finding
a note on the frig about being out of milk for the kids for cereal in the morning and would he go
down to the store and get some.. he gets down to the store, goes in and gets the milk.
then out in his car, he's too tired to even drive home...he puts the seat back for a quick nap,
its winter time so he turns the engine on....cops knocks on his window to wake him up an
hour later... asks him if he has been drinking, he says no.....asked does he need to take a breathe
test... he answers no... Cops states that was a refusal... arrests him, impounds the car..
drops him off at Hazeltine on Medicine Lake.. for 72 hours observation.....
2. my younger brother worked a 16 hours double shift at his job.. they were having a get together
at a bar/restaurant over in Corcoran....he drops by at midnight, and stays until the place closes at
1 am... out in the parking lot after most had left, he was tired and put the seat back....he had had
one non alcoholic beer... knowing he was tired... 15 below outside... so he turns the engine on for the
heat... 2 hours later, cop knocks on the window....sees a beer can by the car....
gets my brother out to produce a D/L and Registration/Insurance... which he does..
while checking that, cops casually asks if he would like to take a Breath test..
Brother says, "not really"... cop spends him around, tells him he is under arrest for a DUI
for refusing the test....in MN it is evidently illegal or considered a DUI for being in a vehicle
behind the steering wheel.. with the engine running, even in winter time for running the heater..
even if the vehicle is in park....and the cop is knocking on the window because the vehicle
hasn't moved in 1 to 2 hours....
both times, the cop duped each of these two into a "refusal"...
both got DUIs for being in a parked vehicle, behind the wheel, with the motor running
and observed the car being parked for several hours.. the drivers with the seat back..
engine running for heat when it was below zero outside....
if all of this isn't about revenue nationally... it certainly is in Hennepin County....
being a traveler, with a job of on the road sales rep, I've had similar situations when I was too tired
to drive... but I always had the common sense to put the seat back in the passenger side.. and not
be behind the wheel... and cops would rap on the window if you weren't in a rest area...
and they always asked if I would like to take a breath test... I always answered sure.. get it out..
answered positively, they never took it out... guess they could see I was straight.. but that never
stopped them from trying to sucker one into refusing it...
I've been pulled over locally here, 3 times in the last year or so....cops ask if I had been drinking
tell them no.... asked if I would take a breath test, sure.. as I don't drink period or use drugs..
then they want to know why I am driving 5 mph under the posted speed limit....
because not everyone is a speeder... thats why....
