Originally Posted by Swifty52
My point to bringing this up wasn’t what went wrong, it was the fact that Matix was hit twice early in the fight in the head and neck by a 357 mag revolver to only be knocked unconscious, Platt had an initial hit with 9mm that punctured a lung and stopped just short of his heart which is credited with being the fatal (or should have been) shot. Matix would survive and rejoin the fight till 2 9mm rounds 1 hitting the spine one just missing. Platt continued until eventually succumbing to the initial wound or the 10 others. To this day the FBI still can’t explain how both were able to continue the fight after the initial wounds.

So the argument of which is better 10mm, 9mm, 45acp or 357 mag and 38+P is moot is it not?
Never. Due to the supposed failures of ammo in this shootout, we have much better ammo now in each round, than we did back then. Sometimes the discussion gets stupid, but it is never without some merit.

The old stopping power stats that both Mas Ayoob and Evan Marshall compiled ended with the 40 at the top of the heap and the 357 second after the 357 had dominated it for years. Other rounds, such as the 44 Mag. and 10mm didn't have enough shootings to be considered. Ed Sanow added his index with predictors and rated such rounds and the 44 Mag. and 10 were off-the-charts. 9mm +P+ was ranked very, very high. If anything could be taken from that whole thing, it was that velocity kills. It also appeared to give the lie to Cooper's assertion that 45 Ball killed "nine times out of ten". Actual real world results were like six of ten with 9mm being five-so almost as effective. FBI lab junkies were convinced the whole key is penetration. If that were the case, Ball would rule.