Well I have read all the post through 12 and have learned a lot.I'm one of the newest guys on fire, but wanted to add to discussion about old guys here. Tomorrow I will be 77 yrs and my 870 will be 61. It was a present on my 16th. It is in a rack on my side of the bed. Wife has a 45 New Service on her side. We know how to use them. Pray we never have to. Distance from Bed , down the hall is 36 ft. to the front foyer. Counting on one of the dogs waking us. But if someone enters house without announcement...well. 870 is loaded with a#71/2 spreader load, #6 spreader followed with 3 rounds of 00 buck. The #71/2 was 4" up and down and 14" wide at 20'. #6 was about 4" by 12" both on a 1/2" 4'x4' pc of sheetrock. Gosh if I could have all the memories back that old 870 and I have made, it would take a while to get through em. Oldcuss