Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Jim1611
So we blame religion on the problems of our nation. We should be getting better if that's the case since the church is losing it's influence. We've taken God out of everything for the last 60 years and we still are seeing a decline in morals. Shouldn't that trend be going the other way if it was right to do that? Maybe if we pass a law against religion it would help.

It’s not taking “God” out of everything.... it’s taking common sense, decency, civility and reality out of everything. God has nothing to do with it.
Exactly, these values are not the exclusive domain of Christianity and pretending they are does a major disservice toward their achievement.
No, jack, those values aren't exclusive to Christianity. But the notion of inevitable suffering and the fact that suffering doesn't have to be in vain IS exclusively Christian.

The rest of the World is running around chasing good times and doing all they can to avoid pain & death. When those good times end, they have nothing. They have lost their highest value. It's very sad.


I see you don't know a thing about Buddisism.


Beat me to it...
4 noble truths:
1) Life sucks
2) It sucks because you’re materialistic and vein
3) It doesn’t have to suck
4) Quit being a materialistic self involved [bleep] and it will suck less