Too many range sessions like those described by Pappy, combined with sudden, magical failures in the field soured me. A lifetime warranty means nothing to me when a scope fails 5 miles in and up 4000 feet on a goat hunt. Then the attitude they displayed when their goons paid us a visit here sealed the deal. My scope purchases since have been Zeiss and Burris. I’d like to try a #4 reticle in either a Kapps 4x or the little Swarovski 3-9 next.