Originally Posted by nighthawk
Marley,

Then you have problems with an infinite number of creators. When you encounter infinity you generally have a problem, in many contexts infinity is irrational. Here's a more complete explanation I lifted:

"If there were not at least one uncaused reality in “the whole of reality,” then “the whole of reality” would be constituted by only caused realities – that is, realities that require a cause to exist.

This means that the whole of reality would have to have a real cause beyond itself in order to exist (without such a cause, the whole of reality would not exist – there would be nothing in existence).

This state of affairs is intrinsically contradictory. How can there be a real cause beyond the whole of reality, if “the whole of reality” exhausts everything that is real? Obviously there can’t be such a cause.

Since “a real cause beyond the whole of reality” is intrinsically contradictory and since the whole of reality is not nothing (i.e. something does in fact exist), we must conclude that the whole of reality cannot be constituted only by caused realities (which would collectively require a cause for their existence).

Therefore, there must be at least one uncaused reality in the whole of reality. This uncaused reality must exist through itself."

And if you carry this on you find that logically there can be only one uncaused reality.


There is no infinite numbers of creators just as there is not an infinite number of humans. Uncaused reality is a result of genetics, or science project, gone wild.