Originally Posted by Snyper
You keep repeating yourself

The father has no choice because he's not the one taking all the risk.

The unborn child still has no rights, just like the dog example I used.

The Nazi crap is exactly that....crap

Slavery was legal, but now it's not

Abortion was illegal and now it is

Both are improvements, whether you happen to agree or not


Margaret Sanger was part and parcel of the Nazi planning, and the creator of Planned Parenthood for the same reasons; eugenics. This is historical fact.

The dog analogy fails because the child is, as you admit, human.

Because something is legal, or illegal, does not make it morally or ethically right. This is entirely the case in point, and thus the references to blacks and women formerly having no rights is accurate. You cannot simply dismiss those points as they are pertinent to the issue at hand.

The father is, in fact, taking substantial risks in the case of the child. However, that is irrelevant to the discussion as it is illegal to discriminate between the sexes, illegal to give rights and privileges differently between the sexes, and if under your concept the child is mere property of the mother then it is equally so property of the father based upon biology and the anti-discrimination laws.

In light of this, please continue.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.