Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by CCCC
Snyper - clearly 4ager has completely dismantled your position.

You say the fetus is human. If, as you also say, no one other than the mother has any right to decide the fate of this human being through possible abortion, why then is it not the sole "right" of any mother to kill a child once it is outside the womb?

P.S. - it already has been established that legality alone is not a substitute for morality or ethical behavior.

I'm not going to bother arguing with irrational crap such as that since it's been used repeatedly

It's "been established" you don't get to dictate ethics and morals for others.

That job has been taken by ISIS


Irrational? The argument presented to you is entirely logical and rational. There is no hyperbole, no ad hominem, and only a very logical, legal, and rational progression from accepted fact (state of baby being human through a discussion of humans as property to law, etc).

I've very much be interested in your refutation of the argument presented. Please do continue.

It's not rational to ask why someone can't murder a child after it's born.
Abortions are done before the child is viable.
The "argument presented" is the argument parroted since the first post, and the repetition is pointless.
It's none of your business what others do as long as it's legal and it doesn't affect you directly
The morals and ethics of others aren't your concern either

Maybe you are different in real life, but you come across as one sick, screwed-up person. So - to you some determination of "viable" is the pivotal criterion for moral/legal killing of a child. And whom do you identify as the all-knowing power that decides such viability in life??

That inability on your part makes the posed question regarding murder after birth even more cogent. How and why would/could you hold reponsible a parent who murdered a post-partum child whom the parent had decided was not sufficiently viable?

If you would hold it legal/moral/ethical murder such a questionable child before birth, why would you not murder one after birth? See - there it is again - your dilemma - and it has nothing to do with another person attempting to force morals or ethics upon you.


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