Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by dassa
Snyder, paddler, et al,

Let me see if I have your position correct with a couple of hypotheticals:

1- My girlfriend and I decide to have a baby. Three months in to the pregnancy, she changes her mind. She kills my child, and I have no input.

2- My girlfriend and I decide we don't want to have a baby, and agree to use the pill for contraception. Without my knowledge she quits taking the pill because she now wants a baby. Ninth months later, a judge tells me I have to pay child support for 18 years.

Is it your position that in either scenario it's none of my business?

It's not "my position".

It's how the laws of "society" work, which is what some keep saying is all that matters.

The right to decide on a legal abortion resides with the female under current laws. Neither the father nor the fetus have any enforceable rights at that point



So, as long as it is legal under the laws of the society at the time then it is right and acceptable? That is clearly what you have just stated. In addition, you've stated that others should "mind their own business", and those are the only two positions you've ever articulated.

Thus, your argument is reduced to pure legalism, and compounded by your maxim that "it's no one's business" so long as it is legal.

Under that, then you clearly would not - and should not - have cared that all of these things were (or still are) legal under the laws of the society in which they are/were practiced, and you certainly cannot support anyone advocating against or opposing them:

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All legal under their societies at the time. Your legalism argument supports every one of these events and many more. Your "mind your business" position prevents you or others from voicing opposition to them; then or now.


Last edited by 4ager; 02/04/16.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.