Of curse this whole argument is a good illustration of why there is no longer 'Christ at the campfire'. Is anyone's mind every changed? You certainly cannot use reason to convince someone of something that is taken on faith.

The arguments are interesting, but become less so when resorting to proofs like scripture which is itself not verifiable by external means.

My biggest worry is the sort of thinking that rejects logic, reason and science in favor of dogmatic belief. That way leads to book burning, luddism, inquisition and worse.

We laugh at the primitiveness of the middle easter societies, but that is exactly what you get under a society where religion holds sway over a secular form of government.


Be the person your dog thinks you are.