Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by FreeMe

..you still have a long way to go to convince me that He would have Noah build a torture box just to be size-efficient.


I haven't tried to convince you one way or the other on the hull design , but I have questioned how you think.. 'its safe fo assume'.. things,
when all you really have is conjecture.

Originally Posted by FreeMe

I mean, everyone was likely ignorant regarding building vessels of large size, yes. What would have been the purpose of any large vessels up to that time,
given what we know/assume?



everyone was likely ignorant on building large vessels..?

thats sounds like a highly speculative-conjecture based claim to me ...but you express it like its safe to assume such.

Gods details to Noah on the Ark are rather few, so would it be logical to think God knew some people already had the additional knowledge required for such task?

Originally Posted by FreeMe

The assumption that you seem to be defending here is one of God
necessarily being the source of every detail. That is simply not supported by the information available.


Where have I claimed God was, or had to be , the source of every detail...???

earlier I made this statement:
'The fact God didnt tell him which hull design to use, does not logically mean Noah already knew.
It could just mean God knew that Noah of his own accord, would have the intelligence to seek out
those experienced shipwrights that did. '


obviously from that I am clearly suggesting God didn't provide all or every detail...but you seem totally blind to it.


Break it down...

1) I admit to some conjecture, but my assumptions are based on belief that God uses logic, and God doesn't deliberately torture his creation and chosen ones for no good reason.

2) I invite again you to offer an explanation of what would be the purpose of large vessels prior to the flood - based on scripture, since that is what you are limiting me to.

3) In retrospect, you are right. I don't know what you are assuming. Wasn't it you who claimed that God had to tell Noah how to build the Ark - as evidenced by the instruction for gopher wood and tar? I'm losing track in this thread, clearly - but I'm not going to read it again.


Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.