My thoughts on Bergers...... They do damage to the inside of an animal that is spectacular. I personally think they are a pain in the azz to load for in my rifles. I can take Sierra's, go max, touch grooves and get a damn accurate load. Same cannot be said for Bergers in my rifles. As a resident, I have four months to dump wapiti and have no desire to run a bullet into a hard quartered elk. I can wait for the next one. As a non-resident on a week long once in a lifetime elk hunt? I would pick a different bullet.