Bob, Bergers are far from my first pick for elk, I really like barnes for them..I do plan on using them this year cuz I'm trying them out on my colorado deer hunt,and I plan on picking up an OTC bull tag on that hunt and the 168's are what I'm rolling with.If this hunt goes the same as most others i'll prolly drop an elk long before a deer. sorry to the elk fans out there but decent bull elk are by far easier to find than a big muley on public.

i'll use them and am pretty sure what the outcome will be, it wont be my first berger'ed bull, and I know what parts to keep the bullet out of smile