Just returned from elk hunt with 7 STW with 180 VLD bergers and took a nice 6x6 bull. How did the Berger do-- dead elk shot was 330 yards in the shoulder took out top of heart and came apart there. Can't say it did not do the job. The 2 nd shot was not really needed but was 4 inches behind shoulder and it blew lungs up but did not get to the other side. Lots of damage but I would have liked exit. This is the 1 set elk with Berger and I can not say anything bad just that inwould prefer more penetration but it killed the bull fast just different than I am used to