Originally Posted by Blackwater
Quoting Joe Bob: "You obviously, don't get the point. Firearms manufacturers know that firearms will be used with hand loaded cartridges. If they ACTUALLY believed that hand loaded cartridges were unreasonably dangerous, they could with a few rather simple design changes, manufacture firearms that could not shoot reloaded ammunition."

Just exactly WHAT "rather simple design changes" are you talking about sir?

And as to Brian, I'm sorry he blew up his rifle and got injured. That was simple human error, and is regretable, always.

However, he admits he DID use a realoaded round. Now I have the dubious distinction of having blown up a Super Blackhawk. I would have sworn on a stack of Bibles that my loads were not only AOK, but absolutely, positively reliable and safe. A STACK of Bibles, mine you! But the gun blew up. Thank God that neither I nor my son sitting on a friend's shoulders, nor my friend were injured in the process.

It took me a week to trace down HOW it happened, but I found I'd poured powder from the hopper of my measure into the WRONG CAN after reloading very late one night. I've probably reloaded and shot nearly or over half a million rounds in my time. Only one was bad. But that was enough.

In short, it was MY fault, and NOT the fault of the firearm or its manufacturer. In fact, if I'd been shooting anything but a Ruger, I'd likely have died or at least been injurred. Therefore, I never even THOUGHT about suing. Ruger found that out through my friend and Ackley/Pachmyr trained gunsmith and friend. They still offered me a replacement at jobber's cost, which I humbly accepted most graciously and thankfully - NOT with a lawsuit just to pay the medical bills, etc.

I know from personal experience what kind of temptations one faces when they blow up a gun. Many will encourage you to sue to get money, and there'll be no shortage of shyster lawyers who'll be glad to help. Product liability is BIG MONEY, and BIG MONEY is the new "God" of our New Millenium. I resisted, and got quite angry at those who suggested I do something I damnably well KNEW wasn't right in ANY way.

Most people today see things quite differently, and it's gonna' be a real experience to see them get what finally MUST come of this kind of idiotic self-destruction.

I don't know ALL the facts about Brian's case, but from what he himself has offered us here to judge by, it looks to me like he was just hurt, and wanted and needed help, and sought it in a lawsuit. Whether that lawsuit was factually, morally, ethically proper or not is quite another matter, and is rightfully subject to the age old measures of what constitutes "right" and "wrong."

He states his suit was based on and due to a "defect" as he calls it in the arm, but fails to elaborate just what that defect actually was. He doesn't give what "specs" were out of line. All we've gotten is a mass of glittering generalities and essentially gobbledygook, and few real facts on which to base a solid or informed opinion.

I'm sorry you're blinded, Brian, but you're not making much of a case for yourself, and just to let you know what you HAVE done here, I should probably tell you that you appear, to me at least, to have just simply sued because you COULD, and were just lucky enough to draw a jury that really didn't know how to weigh the technical matters in the case - a not uncommon situation these days when knowledgeable people are generally at work and don't want and aren't willing to serve on juries.

Again, that's just my take and opinion based on what you've given us to work with. Maybe you're not so good at stating your case? I don't know, but thought you might benefit from at least knowing how it's coming across right now, so you might make amends somehow, if you wish. My opinion is just an opinion, and all I have to base it on is what you've given us to work with, and at least now you know how you're being perceived.





There 10 years’ worth and 1000s of pages of documents and testimony being held with the 46th Circuit Court for the County of Otsego, Michigan if you want all the facts of the case. Public Record

The simple answer is what I have time for right now and it’s what I posted above” You can disregard everything I say but PLEASE if anyone has this gun or knows someone with one out of morbid curiosity check the headspace or have a gun smith check the headspace.” Then see what a qualified gun smith tell you to do.


Last edited by Brian_Ward; 05/22/15.