Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by heavywalker
The truth is subjective to liars.

Q:"Were the loads over pressure" A:(Lie)"They were at max but not over" A:(truth) "I don't know they were never tested"

Facts: Load pressure equal x psi

There you have it truth and facts all in the same post.


Nope, according to his data as it was understood by his expert, they were not over. Thus, truth.

"I don't know, they were never tested." Also, truth because one can't be for one hundred percent certain since they weren't tested.

And I'll give you another. For the kind of "truth" you claim to be after, it doesn't matter because there was absolutely no way to determine what the pressure of the actual load that was fired was. That is also the "truth".




His "expert" was disallowed, and easily. I suspect his "expert" is little more than a local gun plumber and such testimony ain't worth a helluva lot. He's asserted they were not over pressure, but his own load data puts them well over book maximum and highly compressed. I.e., he contradicted himself and had no way of knowing what pressure they were at all. T/C didn't test, and you're grasping at straws simply because you have a distinct bias against corporate defendants.


So, why didn't TC test? That would be a relevant question. Because you can damned well bet that if TC thought those loads were overpressure, they would have tested. Even if they didn't think the gun failed or that any failure was caused by the overpressure, they still would have beaten him over the head with it.

And I'll tell you one more thing. I can guarantee you that they DIDN'T disqualify him for the reason you say. How can I say that? Because you claim that easily found load data puts them at heavily compressed and over max. Frick yeah, I would have let him put on his expert based on software data because then I could have put on my MUCH more prestigious expert who could have testified that based on an EASILY found source that the load was heavily compressed, WAY over max, and thus WAY over pressure. I could have introduced testimony that he was making bombs in his garage WITHOUT EVER taking the risk of ACTUALLY taking one of those loads apart and seeing if it was over pressure.