Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by OldHat
[quote=antlers]Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”

When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.

What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.

You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?

You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.




You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.

He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.


Not just HC and OH, but every church, every religious doctrine known, A. don't understand what was written, and B. are teaching a false religion that came right out of Asia Minor through the Edomites who claim today they are jews but are not.
They have everyone waiting in fear of a visual second coming that even their Jesus said wouldn't happen visually. Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Read it again........... The Kingdom of God cometh NOT with observation..........................why? because the Kingdom is within you, not outside of you.



I’m always curious about views that I haven’t come across. If I were to look into your position a bit deeper what school of thought would I google?


I will PM it to you.