52 grns IMR 4064 with 150 grn bullets. Nephew has been loading 52.8 of 4064 for atleast 40 years for 15-20 different people and rifles. No complaints. We use 150’s because a big deer for us will weigh 200 lbs and if it runs after the shot very far without a good blood trail it will probably be lost. Hunt right of way in very thick woods.
