I have been using the same recipes as Dave. Tried something a little different this year. I bought a custom FN lightweight '06 last year. Had to tweak it a little - replaced the follower (it had a magnum follower)and my gunsmith kissed the chamber with a finish reamer (it was way too tight, never finished). I sighted it in with some Sierra Game King 165 HPs over 56 grains of H414. They'd been sitting on my shelf for several years. Shot .60 at 100 yards for 3 shots. Consistently. Sierra told me the 165 GK HP's were a tough bullet and to put it in the shoulder. I tried them on deer Monday for the first time. It was a neck shot or nothing on an 8 pt. at something over 100 yds. Entrance was .308 and the exit was about 2.5". He proceeded to roll half way down into the hollow. If anyone else has used the 165 GK HP on deer I'd like to know what your experiences were. My sample of 1 may just have been pure luck and I have more hunting to do. Rooster