Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Gojoe
Originally Posted by okie john
Here's one with Nobel Sport Tubal Vectan 7000, which is a lot like 4350. I emailed Barnes and Nosler looking for data but neither have done any work with it yet, so I used data from

https://www.grafs.com/uploads/technical-resource-pdf-file/20.pdf

and

https://www.lhs-germany.de/en/powder/smokeless-powder/vectan/tubal-7000/

This data seems pretty conservative but I'm getting a solid 2,700 fps with the max charge in a couple of 30-06s with 180-grain bullets. Still working on accuracy. Right now it's holding 1.25 MOA in two rifles using the Hornady 180-grain boat-tail.


Okie John

I also bought some TU-7000, I wonder what data you finally settled on?
I used 56 grains under a 180-grain Hornady flat-based spitzer for about 2,689 fps. That combination is about as old-school as you can go while still using smokeless powder but I killed a smallish black bear with it with one shot at 353 yards.

I'd buy more of that powder if I could find it. I used a max load and I'd really like to find data that pushes it harder than I did, but all of the data I could find was pretty conservative.


Okie John



It was my intent to acquire some 180 and 220 grain round nose bullets to try. It's not likely to happen with availability what it is.
Last night I bought 500 Hornady eldx 178 grain bullets. Those will replace the 180 spire points I had in my stash. Hopefully they will.prove satisfactory.

I also have a can of imr4831 and 2 cans of Superformance I bought during the dry spell. Those should work well.

Last edited by Gojoe; 05/27/23.

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