.223 is big enough, have killed a few FL deer (small) and several hogs with a .30 cal G.I. Carbine.
When I was in Jr. Hi. Our metal shop teacher's deer rifle was an old M1 carbine.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
